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Australia Taxes

Hi, this is my first post. I'm doing a lot of research on Australia because I'm going to be moving to Australia from Canada in 2009. I've been trying to find more information on Australian taxes but I can't figure out the Superannualation thing. Can someone please explain this to me?

Your tax system seems pretty straight forward and very similar to the Canadian system. There's tax brackets (as we call it) and if you make 0 to X, you get taxed this much and from X to Y, this percentage. It seems to be a very straight forward system with only one total income tax versus ours which is a combo of federal and provincial (state) tax.

My question is how does the superannulation work? In our system, your employer takes a mandontary x% from your paycheck to pay to the government into what we call a CPP (Canadian Pension Plan). And when you retire, you get Z amount from the government per month based on what you have payed to the government over your lifetime. Is your Superannulation the same as our CPP?

Or is it more like our RRSP (Registered Retirement Savings Plan), when you can choose contribute to it (up to 18% per year) or not. The contributed amount is not taxed, and as it grows inside the RRSP account, it does not get taxed. If you withdraw from it before your retirement age, you will have to pay it back at y% interest over 15 years. Once you retire and withdraw from it, you will be taxed the income tax rate (but at that time it will be minimal since it will be your only income). Also, some employers match your RRSP contributions as fringe benefits.

I can't figure out if the Superannulation is money put away for you by your employer on top of your salary or % of your salary paid to the government on your behalf. Can someone please help?

Also, is there any other taxes/fees other than personal income tax, and GST? Thank you for the responses!
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Old 04-09-2008, 06:03 AM
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Welcome to the forum Scootergirl, and seems as though you may already be familiar with the Australian Taxation Office Homepage but if not it has all the taxation details and also some references to superannuation regarding administration of self managed superannuation funds, government incentives like Co-contribution, choice of funds and taxation of them.

Super Preamble
Superannuation is a complex field and the field regularly of late gets reploughed and reseeded - I suppose the government is attempting to make the public less reliant on old age pensions, especially seeing as the population average age is always increasing - forget what forecast figures are but say in fifty years time we could have 50% or more of the population at a non working age.
So whereas before the last couple of decades Super was mainly something for Public Servants and Professionally employed people, legislation was introduced so as it became compulsory for all employers to have it for employees but not as a payment into a Government Pension Plan.

The Old Age Pensions still exist (for now) and at age 65 people with Superannuation can still be eligible for Pension or part pension payments and there is no contribution for that other than through regular income taxation, pensions like all government payments being funded as part of general expenditure from revenue received.
There is a means test on assets and income and the rules for that also keep get changed.

But back to Superannuation and at moment the % of Salary (an ammount on top of salary, though some jobs can be advertised as a package deal that includes Super) is 9%.
There has been talk of Unions pushing to have that raised to 12-13% and with wall to wall (All States and Federal) Labour Governments at the moment anything is possible.

Anyway, initially the Salary% was administered by an employer with them managing Super funds though some woukld have contracted it out and that has led to a huge number of financial institutions offering Superannuation services.
With some changes that have been gradually introduced by legislation, employees are now given a choice of where their Super Money goes - a choice of funds and that can include:
. Industry Funds like HESTA and
. Self Managed Funds.
Some industry funds have not performed too well and ironically they may have had a heavy or light fingered union hand involved, but in the way of poor investment decisions.

This site - Superannuation - australia.gov.au will explain more of all the legislative and managerial scenarios.

In essence it is probably something like your RRSP and there's a heap of taxation rules and ability to contribute money from your salary as well as the 9% - that being called Salary Sacrificing and a bit of an investment angle if you are on a higher income, say where you are paying 40c/$ or more of tax on additional income, for if you sacrifice it to Superannuation you will pay only 15c/$ in tax, but obviously for the time being you make do without the 60c/$ spending capacity.

Money that funds earn is taxed at 15% and then when you get to retirement age or even 55 or 60 there are also sorts of conversions into annuities and what not that you can have take place to have the $$$$$ structured to minimise taxation and maximise pension eligibility.

Your wealth in a Superannuation fund is not guaranteed for funds are invested in shares (local and international), property and cash accounts and ultimately how well a fund will perform will depend on how well the managers have invested/structured for taxation mimimisation, how well the global and local economy has been and how much the managers and staff have to be paid.

And then you have something like the US Prime Motrtage meltdown scaring the pants off the world and/or investment managers who have decided that an investment in some developing country looks good only to find lack of regulatory control and/or corruption sees their money kissed goodbye - many examples about of even major banks writing off billions as is occurring now - so what do they say "nothing is certain in life other than death and taxes".

At the end of the rainbow, hopefully all is well enough for investment monies to be meaningful and/or the government is raking in enough to still be paying pensions.

The only other taxes/fees that are of any real note in Australia are:
. Medicare Levy - read tha ato info but think it is 1.5% of taxable income if you have private insurance, and maybe more without.
. Private Medical Insurance - around $650(me) - ?(a lot more for full private cover)/year for a single - Health Insurance, Private Health Cover, Home & Contents Insurance, Private Health Insurance - Australian Unity (probably also have a super scheme) and a good organisation I am with.
. Car registration which is normal for any country but about $500-$1000 depending on size of car and state and then some more for insurance that can vary from ~$200-$1000+ depending again on type of car, level of insurance and age/rating of owner/drivers.
. Local Government and Water/Sewerage rates if you are buying or own a property - anywhere from~$1000/Y in a rural area up to tens of thousands if you own something ritzy somewhere ritzy, but normal urban house could be around $2000-3000/y
. Electricity and Phone you can pay a nominal service connection fee/deposit of about $100 and then useage and line rental for phone which could ammount for both to about $1000/y.
. You could also have gas depending on where you are
. Internet could be another $500/y but most telecom companies have packages where you get landline phone, internet and mobile all rolled into one with discounts applying.
. Cable TV?, depends on package and could be packaged with Telco, but add another $500/y in.

And of course Banks love to have fees for this and that but if you're smart and finacial enough to be paying up a credit card balance each month, you can keep their fees down to ~$100/y (other than housing loans interest), and probably get more than that back in points awards.

That about covers most living costs other than eating and drinking, and yes, just about everything you pay other than interest on loans, local government rates and fresh food has GST of 10% but you tend not to be concerned about it unless you're broke as it is built into advertised prices.
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Thanks for great answer. One more question, is there a bank in Australia that have free checking account & savings accounts? Like no fees, free checks, unlimited interac, transactions, withdrawals? In Canada, we have an online only bank called PC Financial (President's Choice Financial | home ). There's absolutely no fees for anything with that online bank since all transactions are done by phone or internet. And if you need cash withdrawal, it's partnered with a physical bank so you can access that other banks ATMs with no fees.

Do you have anything similar? I look through a lot of banks and the only one that is slightly similar is Bank West? Is there one that offer $0 annual fees & maintenance fees without a minimual amount in the account?
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Thank you for the excellent reply. I have one more question regarding banks. Is there any discount banks or online banks in Australia? In Canada, we have Presidents Choice Financial (President's Choice Financial | home ) where you pay no annual fees, maintainence fees, transaction fees, and you get free checking, free debit, free ATM withdrawals from it's partner banks, free checks, and 4.25% interest in savings. You do not have to keep a minimum balance in your account.

The only Aussie bank I found that is similar is Bank West? Is there another bank in Australia that offers great services and low fees? Thank you for your responses.
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Old 04-10-2008, 11:36 AM
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I knew of oneonline bank here because of a couple of accounts and that is ING DIRECT Australia - Home loans, high interest savings, term deposits and business banking. and it probably has more features now than when I opened the accounts, merely with idea of being able to transfer money from transaction accounts into a higher interest earning account and then back again when I needed it.

I am not surprised to find a heap more on a google - Free Online Banking - Google Search and names like AMP, HSBC and to some extent BankWest I think would be safe enough. There's one there too saying it is a service for police and nurses, and so could be OK.

The reason I do not worry with the Ing Direct accounts I have is just that the normal bank fees are not too horrendous, there being accounts for about $5/mth that give so many free transactions via an ATM and getting money out via Eftpos from a store when you buy something is free.

I have an account with Bendigo Bank - Bank Accounts, Bank, Credit Cards (what we call a second tier bank and now amalgamated with Bank of Adelaide) because I had a commercial loan through their associated Trust Fund, Sandhurst Trustees and whether or not it is because of that I pay no fees or next to no fees with them but most business is on line*
* - You'll find that all online transactions are free here with most banks I suspect, and then for a credit card I have an AMX one for which I not only have no fees buy keeping my annual use above a certain level each year, I get about $200 a year rebate on points accumulated.

So in effect you can set yourself up to have a positive return.

Moving to Australia has typical services and is one of what we call our first tier or top four though Bendigo/Adelaide may now just about make it a top five and I mention it not because it is any better or worse (but always a good name whereas others do get slagged a bit) but it has a good section there for moving to Australia, a more user friendly site and you could open an account online before arriving in Oz.
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Thanks for the advice. I didn't know you can open an account before going to Aussie. Also, what is this first tier and second tier bank system? I dont' understand... we only have banks and credit unions in Canada. And credit unions are more local and serve a small area only while banks are national.

We have ING in Canada too but it's completely free.
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