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Editor 06-30-2013 12:11 AM

Can Kevin Rudd lead Australia to the promised land?
 
The recent history of the Australian Labor Party has been dominated by infighting, arguments and confusion. After a number of attempts to oust former Prime Minister Julia Gillard, Kevin Rudd has finally made it back to leader of the Labor Party and Prime Minister of Australia. The speed at which the leadership battle emerged and [...]

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chicken999 06-30-2013 02:40 AM

I just want some in power who will stop these dam boat people so asio can process my security check instead of wasting time on people who throw their passports away

robboat 06-30-2013 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Editor (Post 101139)
The recent history of the Australian Labor Party has been dominated by infighting, arguments and confusion. After a number of attempts to oust former Prime Minister Julia Gillard, Kevin Rudd has finally made it back to leader of the Labor Party and Prime Minister of Australia. The speed at which the leadership battle emerged and [...]

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How many people are disillusioned with Labour and what has happened the last 5 years....

"Spot the Labour Supporter" is the new game....no one wants to clearly identify with Labour.

That is why the Labour party insiders brought back Kevin....they are desperate!

Better a small retreat than a major defeat......???

One failed leader replaced by another failed leader.....is doomed to failure.

Kevin has not changed.....he is never going to be a true leader.....

Just a great talker (like the diplomat that he really is - ex-foreign minister)

Poor fellow, my country - we need a strong stable government....so vote wisely next election.

Theoilman 07-01-2013 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by chicken999 (Post 101147)
I just want some in power who will stop these dam boat people so asio can process my security check instead of wasting time on people who throw their passports away

Australia gets 10 times less asylum seekers than the UK or the US, and 5 times less than most individual European countries. 80-90 percent of the world's displaced people don't even go to developed countries, they end up in the country next to the one they flee. I can't help but feel like Australians are just complaining whenever they mention this issue. And I say this as someone who was born Australian.

chicken999 07-02-2013 11:05 AM

That just proves my point though, genuine refugees will stop and stay in the safest nearest country they can get too. But these boat people are not genuine. They throw away their passports they bypass 10 safe countries to get here and then blackmail and abuse once they reach the detention centre. And what genuine refugee has 10k to pay per person to get on a boat? I don't have a problem with genuine refugees but these people are just queue jumpers. 4.5 years and I am still fighting with immigration 20k in legals at least that in airfares x 20 trips it would have been a dam quicker option for us to get on a boat and certainly cheaper. And now that we are finally getting closer we are held up because asios security checks are delayed cause they are too busy processing boat people. I have a client who works t diac Brisbane and flies up to Christmas Island regularly to process these so called refugees and its just lies. so this is not just newspaper gossip this is straight from diac

Theoilman 07-02-2013 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by chicken999 (Post 101791)
That just proves my point though, genuine refugees will stop and stay in the safest nearest country they can get too. But these boat people are not genuine. They throw away their passports they bypass 10 safe countries to get here and then blackmail and abuse once they reach the detention centre. And what genuine refugee has 10k to pay per person to get on a boat? I don't have a problem with genuine refugees but these people are just queue jumpers. 4.5 years and I am still fighting with immigration 20k in legals at least that in airfares x 20 trips it would have been a dam quicker option for us to get on a boat and certainly cheaper. And now that we are finally getting closer we are held up because asios security checks are delayed cause they are too busy processing boat people. I have a client who works t diac Brisbane and flies up to Christmas Island regularly to process these so called refugees and its just lies. so this is not just newspaper gossip this is straight from diac

According to the Australian government over 90 percent of them are genuine.

chicken999 07-02-2013 09:31 PM

I don't believe that for one second

Dexter 07-05-2013 10:25 AM

Kevin will lead us to a promised land... where Liberals are in charge. :) 14-th September will be end of our journey.

iduno 07-05-2013 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Theoilman (Post 101836)
According to the Australian government over 90 percent of them are genuine.

I dont believe that either.

louiseb 07-05-2013 01:28 PM

Now im not really into the politics here so i cannot say too much but i understand that although you vote a person in the votes they obtain can go to another party or some one else and they become leader, like julia gillard she backed stabbed kevin rudd and became leader over night, how is this possible once you are a leader then surely it would have to take an election to change leaders, not one day julia is in and the next day kevin rudd is in, whats the point of voting when the people you actually vote for may not stand as leader.

louiseb


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