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Old 08-28-2010, 03:10 AM
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ARGGHHH - I hate politics... but I have to say, I would rather go through an election campaign again that this comfounded waiting....

I think it is totally unworkable to have 3 or 4 MPs holding the power. I wonder if the voting would have been different if people had realised their votes were going to be used this way?

I know politics is one of the subjects that is really fraught with complications and one I rarely get drawn into. But this election really has me seething! Nothing much has been done since Gillard took over, then 2 months in, call election, 5 weeks of electioneering and now 2 more weeks of waiting till all the votes are counted. I feel like our country is rudderless (absolutely NO pun intended there!!!).

What does everyone else think?
It is really that the independents initially have the power to decide which party will govern and yes once they have made that decision they could elect not to agree with a particular policy of the government, however I doubt that we'll really see that happening for
1. The independents are hopefully smart enough to realise that they're not going to be governing and can accept that will not always agree on the policy of the major party they have chosen to back.
There could be some behind the scenes negotiation but the government policy will largely have to be accepted for if they do not, they couldf be looking at a new election and that could be the end of them.
2. They're the last ones to want another election at all for exactly the reason as above.
You could possibly have pople voting differently in many electorates if another election was held and though you could end up with one of the two major parties having a slight majority, you could also still get much the same result.
The close seats polls are all but declared and come Monday/Tuesday I think it is going to be decision time for the dependents and who will have the numbers.
And that has to happen anyway before a new election can be called.

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Old 08-28-2010, 03:18 AM
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I have a feeling that Labor and Gilliard will be eventually the ones claiming victory. Media suggest that independents will rather go for Labor than Libs. They also suggest that Tony Abbott will rather focus on the 2013 election than on building minority government. I personally think it may be a good move from him to hold off for these 3 years and build his power up rather than rely on coalition with independents.
That could be so Dexter, depending on which way the independents lean but they will be very cognisant of the fact that it is not only their own electorate who determined that Labor had their chance.
And polls are actually saying their electorates want the Libs.
Aside from the three ex Nationals, one of whom does not want anything of a mining tax, the WA national also will not support a mining tax and then Wilkes in Tasmania has a soft spot for loggers, so he isn't all tied up with Labor/Greens either.
I reckon the independents will see the right writing on the wall and some of their electorate could well be pointing it out to them over the weekend too.

As for Tony, there's absolutely no way any parliamentary leader is going to give up on having the keys to the lodge and looking towards 2013 will be the furtherest from his mind for anything can happen in three years in opposition as we have well seen in the past three.

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We are closer to labor government... Andrew Wilkie went for Labor offer and - as expected - so did Greens.

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Old 09-03-2010, 04:13 AM
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The Greens were a certainty and that could have a few Labor/Green voters who might otherwise be swing voters wondering somewhat when the next election comes along.
Wilkes is something of a more interesting case for he has various reasons to not be siding with either side and in effect he has partially done that for whilst he is supporting Labor re they having the numbers, he has also said he'll not necessarily side with them in a no confidence vote against the opposition in in opposing a supply bill.

So yes, looks like the three Amigos and the rather forgotten WA National are left to decide and who would really know with those three, it becoming a bit farcical all this we'll decide when we're ready and yet at the same time they are saying lets have some parliamentary reform.

They really need to review the AEC counting process, a week for postal votes to be in by and as soon as they have known winners of seats, they should look at transferring some count resources to the marginal/close seats to get earliest possible decisions and then they can proceed with finalising count numbers all over.

Meanwhile we have shaky knees Oateshott now saying that because Labor have 74 that is something to be considered.
All three of those seats had the lowest Labor polling of all 150 and if they side with Labor I reckon they might just be in their last term somehow, and for two of them re age, that could well be what they may consider anyway.

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