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Old 06-21-2016, 09:48 AM
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Jobcode on PR Visa

Hi all,

I am new to this forum and have a question regarding PR visa.

When the Visa is stamped on Passport, does it contain the jobcode under which you applied (or any indicator for same).

Or, is their any other document that contains the same.


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Old 07-05-2016, 12:59 PM
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I hope that after I finish my study, I'll get better full time job and get permanent residency later.

The requirement to get PR is really tough for many people ...
To get better job is even tougher ...


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I had lived abroad before, in Europe, but down there... it was a completely different story.
I left Australia as I realised that my living standards down under were very bad, compared to the ones I enjoyed in Italy. No job, no social life, no cultural life, nothing..let alone the boring low quality of tv programmes, cooking shows every night!
After the first months of "honeymoon", where I saw everything through rose lenses, I discovered that Australian Welfare was pretty unfair (how can you live with 1000 dollars a month?), healthcare was not efficient and quite expensive (medicare covers 50% of the costs and doctors try to rip you off with expensive treatments), the education system, university and vocational training was very very expensive and superficial. I wanted to re train with a TAFE course, but the quality was poor with very high costs.
I have also experienced centrelink and the australian job service providers: I have never seen anything less professional than that.
Then, I realised how much I loved history & culture and living in europe, despite all the problems.
Ok, tropical beaches and kangaroos are nice, but after a while they all look the same. The barrier reef is fantastic, unfortunately it's difficult and very expensive to reach!
I gladly resettled back home: now I can afford things I could only dream of in Australia, as the cost of life there is too high.
My australian life helped me to refocus on what's important for me.
As I have a PR I might go back, one day, maybe. Or I just let my PR travel right expire.
Sorry to sound so negative. It's my experience. I hope that for all of you everything will go in the right way.


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I had lived abroad before, in Europe, but down there... it was a completely different story.
I left Australia as I realised that my living standards down under were very bad, compared to the ones I enjoyed in Italy. No job, no social life, no cultural life, nothing..let alone the boring low quality of tv programmes, cooking shows every night!
After the first months of "honeymoon", where I saw everything through rose lenses, I discovered that Australian Welfare was pretty unfair (how can you live with 1000 dollars a month?), healthcare was not efficient and quite expensive (medicare covers 50% of the costs and doctors try to rip you off with expensive treatments), the education system, university and vocational training was very very expensive and superficial. I wanted to re train with a TAFE course, but the quality was poor with very high costs.
I have also experienced centrelink and the australian job service providers: I have never seen anything less professional than that.
Then, I realised how much I loved history & culture and living in europe, despite all the problems.
Ok, tropical beaches and kangaroos are nice, but after a while they all look the same. The barrier reef is fantastic, unfortunately it's difficult and very expensive to reach!
I gladly resettled back home: now I can afford things I could only dream of in Australia, as the cost of life there is too high.
My australian life helped me to refocus on what's important for me.
As I have a PR I might go back, one day, maybe. Or I just let my PR travel right expire.
Sorry to sound so negative. It's my experience. I hope that for all of you everything will go in the right way.
I will not totally disagree with you on your points, but a couple of them do need addressing.

Culture
First, where I do agree, if a person likes the diversity and culture of life in Europe, the old cities and the ability to travel short distances to go to new places, then Australia will be hard to change to. It is a massive change, Australia is certainly different to Europe.

TV
You mention the "low quality of tv programmes, cooking shows every night". I am sure that all countries now have "cooking shows every night" on one channel or so.
I personally choose a different channel to avoid them. Most people pay for cable TV and get many different choices, other than the 10 or so free to air channels (excluding shopping channels) [ABC, ABC2, ABC News, 7, 7Two, 7Mate, 7Flix, 9, Gem, GO, Ten, 11, SBS]. Programme choices can be seen at: Australian TV Guide for Free-To-Air television
But, not enough good TV to keep people occupied 12 hours a day, unless you get a Pay TV package.

Education
University etc, after school is expensive. But there are systems for citizens to make it feasible.
Australian Universities have more than one million enrolled students, and for a population of 25 million, that's not too bad.
Australia is in the OECD top 10 for countries with highest proportion having completed tertiary education.
So, although expensive, it appears affordable to Australians.

Welfare Benefits:
"how can you live with 1000 dollars a month?" Welfare is not meant to be easy, it is intended to help people survive. And to encourage people to find work. However, many people do manage, and seem to prefer welfare. A couple, both on welfare, would get $500 per week, (much more if they have kids) maybe pay $250 in rent, $100 on food. They seem to be able to smoke aswell (and cigarettes are expensive)

Healthcare:
You say that "healthcare was not efficient and quite expensive (medicare covers 50% of the costs and doctors try to rip you off with expensive treatments)"
My experience is very different. Medicare covers 100% of doctors visits and hospital procedures for most people. Bulk Billing, where patients pay nothing, is about 83% of all transactions. Those who choose private doctors, end up paying about $35 to see a doctor. In 20+ years I have only ever paid once, the rest have all been bulk billed. However I have also never lived in the expensive areas, where bulk billing is not as common.

Australia is not perfect, and for some, it never will be, no ancient castles etc (and I miss those too). But once you get to know the systems, it's not too bad.

Ohh... we do have big spiders... We had one in the house last night, (first this year)... Made me think about going back home to England for a few moments.. If we had too many of them... well, it may swing my mood to leave again.. I don't like spiders!!

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“Brisbane is so sleepy, so slatternly, so sprawlingly unlovely… It is simply the most ordinary place in the world…It was so shabby and makeshift … a place where poetry could never occur.”
― David Malouf, Johnno

It's my favourite australian writer who describes perfectly my experience there.
The opinion you can have on Australia depends from your personal lifestyle, cultural/social background and previous experiences. I find the quality of life in Italy much better, in terms of lifestyle, workers rights, medical treatment and educational system.
Lots of young australians might attend expensive universities, but the result is controversial. There is an interesting article on the website theconversation on "Six ways Australia's education system is failing Australian kids", written by reseachers of University of Sydney, have a look at it. I can't post the link
By the way, me and my husband - who is australian - when we were both unemployed, we couldn't survive on the centrelink 2.000 dollars a month, even if we didn't smoke! sorry, centrelink lifestyle life is not on my bucket's list.

Anyway, as I said I DO LOVE AUSTRALIA, as it helped me to understand how precious and beautiful my country is. I enjoy every second of my Italian (new) life. And I have choice of 50 free on air tv channels!!! No cooking shows everynight!!!
Good luck to everyone downunder.


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“Brisbane is so sleepy, so slatternly, so sprawlingly unlovely… It is simply the most ordinary place in the world…It was so shabby and makeshift … a place where poetry could never occur.”
― David Malouf, Johnno

It's my favourite australian writer who describes perfectly my experience there.
Johnno by David Malouf. Published: 1975

That was in 1975. Its changed a lot in 40 years.

2016 even saw Brisbane celebrate the 20th year of the Queensland Poetry Festival.

Still not too busy a place. Much more relaxed than Sydney or Melbourne.

When i first arrived in Brisbane in 1986 i did feel the same as you and quickly moved South. But 20 years later i found the place much better and still changing all the time.

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Yes, my husband told me that Brisbane is much better now. I probably I have lived slightly better in Sydney and Melbourne (with a good income!).
I feel sorry that I have a PR and I don't care about it, while for some it's vital. Unfortunately I can't pass it to anyone.

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I know the QLD writers festival and poetry one, as, in my desperate and sad efforts to mix and mingle in the cultural scene of Brisbane, I attended some of the writing courses at the QLD writers centre....


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It's all about adapting to the new place..


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It's all about adapting to the new place..
I know of some who left in a few days, just because it was too hot.


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Well, am from Kenya. I think it's much hotter , Kenya. We are smack on the equator.


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