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Old 03-12-2015, 11:18 AM
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NO JOBS for those under student visa. Why???

I understand that being under student visa, we are allowed to work for 40hrs per fortnight. This condition is stated in the immigration websites, migration agent websites etc. I don't want to believe that this is stated all over the internet sites only to lure or attract international students to pay outrageous tuition fees here in Australia instead of paying colleges in their home countries because in reality, international students are not given career breaks here in Australia.

The qualifications of international students achieved or attained in their home countries will not be recognized here. In my case, my husband (who is likewise under student visa) is a licensed mechanical engineer in our country with 17 years of professional work experience under his belt. I also have a double degree education in Law and Human Resource Management back home. I've sent hundreds of job applications here since we arrived last year. I've applied for job positions both in our respective fields and sometimes even downgraded our qualifications in order to fit in to entry -level job positions or casual employments. The responses are all the same. They will not hire us, even for a part-time or project employment, because we don't have Australian work experience AND we are not permanent residents nor Australian citizens. Our expertise, degrees and work experiences are all overlooked because we are holding merely student visas.

Students from foreign countries intending to study here must be warned that THIS will be their case as well. If they are teachers, technicians, nurses, legal and authorized professionals in their hometown and are planning to study here in Australia and be employed as a professional while studying to augment their living expenses, they should think twice.

I dont want to say that it is impossible to be employed. I believe they could get the proper employment but it will just take time, lots of connections and effort to get a job in line with your profession. However, if you are prepared to be a cleaner, gardener,waiter or dishwasher during the time that you are under student visa,then there will be no problem at all.

I just want to say that this issue should be made known to aspiring applicants of Au student visa. They should be prepared to be unemployed or under-employed for the entire duration that they are holders of a student visa. Truth is they are attracting foreign students in order to boost school profit but foreign students wont be given priority in job placements even if your credentials are good. In forums, you will always come across the question "how can we get Australian work experience if they wont hire us first??"... how?

It is understandable that they will give priority to permanent residents and citizens to the point that international students will be discouraged to file for a permanent residency after the expiration of their student visas. There are many like us who decided to enter Australia, get proper education and test the waters if Australian-living is for us. We might be able to get a good life here and in return we might be of help to the community or be an asset to the country in some ways in the future. Maybe. But how could that be if starting life here is very difficult?

Student visa approvals are easy to get but the job-hunting condition for international students here is very discouraging and unsupportive. It's like saying, 'spend money here..pay your tuition fees and living costs but we wont help you get a job to pay for it.....bring in money and spend here but we wont give it back to you in the form of wage or salary'! Sad.


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Unfortunately the job market is not good in Australia at the moment regardless of if you are an Australian Citizen, PR or TR.

A friend's daughter finished her marketing degree st university over a year ago and still can't get a job in her field.

Unfortunately I think it is just luck but being on a student visa is hard with the restrictions. Alot of part time jobs are more than 20 hours per week so that could be why you can't get them as well.

Where my husband works they don't employ student visa holders because their part time hours are 25 to 35 hours a week.

Yes it is hard but don't give up. My husband has unlimited work rights and he didn't get a job straight up. However, he had no Australian work experience and is a temporary visa holder and got a permanent job.

My husband also knows someone who came on a spouse visa and is still looking for work more than 3 months later but in a different place to him. That is why it is all luck of the draw.

One thing, I will ask is if you have had your resume checked because sometimes it can be the resume that is letting you down.

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Hi javeline,

Thank you for your post.

I'm in the same situation as well! Having 10 years IT professional experience in my home country doesn't matter in Australia! As long you have a student visa nobody is interested in you! Australia is only interested in your money! As long you have money they are happy but when you run out of it they will kick you out immediately!

I'm studying a Master Degree and I hope to finish it soon because I'll leave this country as soon as possible! The job market is also down here so there is no future to stay here! All the shit advertisements about study in Australia and your carrier will growth is all a fake! They will only your money!!! I believe that Australia will be a part of Asia in 50 years. Nowadays, walking in the city, you find it difficult to see a real Australian

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Unfortunately the job market is not good in Australia at the moment regardless of if you are an Australian Citizen, PR or TR.

A friend's daughter finished her marketing degree st university over a year ago and still can't get a job in her field.

Unfortunately I think it is just luck but being on a student visa is hard with the restrictions. Alot of part time jobs are more than 20 hours per week so that could be why you can't get them as well.

Where my husband works they don't employ student visa holders because their part time hours are 25 to 35 hours a week.

Yes it is hard but don't give up. My husband has unlimited work rights and he didn't get a job straight up. However, he had no Australian work experience and is a temporary visa holder and got a permanent job.

My husband also knows someone who came on a spouse visa and is still looking for work more than 3 months later but in a different place to him. That is why it is all luck of the draw.

One thing, I will ask is if you have had your resume checked because sometimes it can be the resume that is letting you down.

Good luck
Thank you Mish. I've read some of your replies in the forum and you've been a great help to a lot of followers either seeking for an advise or just merely ranting.

Im just hoping too that things will get better in the coming months. I have my 2 young children with me so I cant afford to risk their future. Fingers-crossed!

Thanks again!


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Thank you Mish. I've read some of your replies in the forum and you've been a great help to a lot of followers either seeking for an advise or just merely ranting.

Im just hoping too that things will get better in the coming months. I have my 2 young children with me so I cant afford to risk their future. Fingers-crossed!

Thanks again!
Can you work with alcohol? I only ask because no everyone can because of religion.

Maybe getting your RSA will help and you can work in restaurants?

Also don't just rely on what is advertised on seek for restaurants as in majority of them aren't advertised. Get your resume and go door to door with your resume. Restaurants employee alot of casuals so I thought that could be a chance.

Only problem with part time is usually they are more than 20 hours a week. But you can look for one that is 1 or 2 days a week.

Just a few suggestions.


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Can you work with alcohol? I only ask because no everyone can because of religion.

Maybe getting your RSA will help and you can work in restaurants?

Also don't just rely on what is advertised on seek for restaurants as in majority of them aren't advertised. Get your resume and go door to door with your resume. Restaurants employee alot of casuals so I thought that could be a chance.

Only problem with part time is usually they are more than 20 hours a week. But you can look for one that is 1 or 2 days a week.

Just a few suggestions.

Thank you again for the helpful tips. I will research on RSM. This forum is very effective. Members are so helpful and polite.In other forums, people tend to make personal attacks and bash other members. Instead of getting enlightenment or answers, people fight! Thank you Mish and AF admin Cheers!


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"how can we get Australian work experience if they wont hire us first??"... how?

It is understandable that they will give priority to permanent residents and citizens to the point that international students will be discouraged to file for a permanent residency after the expiration of their student visas. There are many like us who decided to enter Australia, get proper education and test the waters if Australian-living is for us. We might be able to get a good life here and in return we might be of help to the community or be an asset to the country in some ways in the future. Maybe. But how could that be if starting life here is very difficult?

Student visa approvals are easy to get but the job-hunting condition for international students here is very discouraging and unsupportive. It's like saying, 'spend money here..pay your tuition fees and living costs but we wont help you get a job to pay for it.....bring in money and spend here but we wont give it back to you in the form of wage or salary'! Sad.
I am sorry, but Australians prefer hire people that can work the hs that they need and have previous experience in the country.

How to get that experience?
Volunteer job! the easier way and at the same time you will feel more prepare to belong to the Aussie workforce.

Generally Australians get their first work experience when they are in College . I am studying a complicated degree and lots of my classmates ( Aussies) work in coffee shops, babysitting etc. So I don't see anything wrong to start from zero. The more you do the better.

I mean the reason to get an student visa is not to demand a job ( yes it helps ) but the idea is the experience, the job is not mandatory.

Other workers that compete with students are backpacker, they arrive and search for experience and they are less "risky ". Backpacker don't need hs to study or ask for more days off in order to prepare an exam . So from the employer perceptive backpacker are a better choice.

Hope you and all people that is in student visa find a nice job but, don't demand to much, you are new in the country. Start slowly, get volunteer experience and doors will be open for you.

All the best!


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I am sorry, but Australians prefer hire people that can work the hs that they need and have previous experience in the country.

How to get that experience?
Volunteer job! the easier way and at the same time you will feel more prepare to belong to the Aussie workforce.

Generally Australians get their first work experience when they are in College . I am studying a complicated degree and lots of my classmates ( Aussies) work in coffee shops, babysitting etc. So I don't see anything wrong to start from zero. The more you do the better.

I mean the reason to get an student visa is not to demand a job ( yes it helps ) but the idea is the experience, the job is not mandatory.

Other workers that compete with students are backpacker, they arrive and search for experience and they are less "risky ". Backpacker don't need hs to study or ask for more days off in order to prepare an exam . So from the employer perceptive backpacker are a better choice.

Hope you and all people that is in student visa find a nice job but, don't demand to much, you are new in the country. Start slowly, get volunteer experience and doors will be open for you.

All the best!
I am wondering if the pay we get from part time jobs like working in restaurants and the likes, can sustain our living in Australia? I am planning on applying for a student visa. but reading some of the posts here somehow put me in hesitation.


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Everybody lives different experiences, mine is good, but I couldn't support myself with a job while I was studying (my parents helped me). Now I am completely self sufficient and I have savings.
No one can tell you that you wont get a good job, but there are no guarantees either.
Try to keep yourself informed about the place you want to go through job searchers like Gumtree, Indeed, Seek etc. be aware of your skills. Keep an eye on what kind of course you need to do (RSP I have that one :P) in order to apply to those jobs, prepare a good cv ( I can send you mine if you want) you have plenty models on internet . Keep on asking questions when you have those things ready.

The best of lucks, and if you can have a plan B ( savings, family you can borrow) just in case.

Cheers,
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I am wondering if the pay we get from part time jobs like working in restaurants and the likes, can sustain our living in Australia? I am planning on applying for a student visa. but reading some of the posts here somehow put me in hesitation.
No it won't 20 hours wages won't cover rent food and bills let alone a car or public transport. You really need savings to live and just use 20hrs work to cover maybe food and transport . Life is very expensive here. I will give u an example of my expenses 2 room apartment 380 per week in Brisbane 15kms from cbd Gas and electricity 40$ per week Mobile phone $60 Internet 90$ Food 60-100 per week Bus to work x 5 days $40 Sydney and Melb are even more expensive

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