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Old 08-19-2015, 09:28 AM
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im from the U.K. and have an Aussie Girlfriend in Queensland and am looking at moving out there next November under the partner visa
I'm 55 and currently work as a train driver for the London Underground and would like to do the same job in OZ (subject to visa's of course)

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Hi im from the U.K. and have an Aussie Girlfriend in Queensland and am looking at moving out there next November under the partner visa I'm 55 and currently work as a train driver for the London Underground and would like to do the same job in OZ (subject to visa's of course) Thanks Mark
Hi Mark, what do you know about the partner visa?

Reading your post above, you're unlikely to be successful in securing a partner visa.

Have you looked into the PMV instead? This might be a much more viable option for you...


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Not much of a train underground system in Australia. Have to get used to sunlight

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Thanks ausindo

As far as i can see from the immigration website a de facto relationship (The Partner (Provisional) visa (subclass 309)) can be applied for whilst living outside of Australia

There just seems to be some contradictions on their website

Could you advise on length of time for this application and cost !

Would we need to register our relationship in the first instance ?


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Thanks ausindo As far as i can see from the immigration website a de facto relationship (The Partner (Provisional) visa (subclass 309)) can be applied for whilst living outside of Australia There just seems to be some contradictions on their website Could you advise on length of time for this application and cost ! Would we need to register our relationship in the first instance ?
Our immigration is notorious to provide somewhat unclear information to the general public, hence (I guess) why we need RMAs.

So, the first question you need to ask yourself...are you in a defacto relationship with your lady? Defacto is like married couple without the certificate.

Registering your relationship in QLD will certainly support your application but not necessarily fulfill the defacto requirements. Have you lived together? Joint finances, social life, etc?

Just make sure you cover all basis before you part ways with thousands of dollars. Now the application fee excluding all other costs is just under $7K.


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technically we are not in a de facto relationship, though can provide evidence of internet calls etc that last for hours per day over the last year!

on the 47SP form it says you have to be in a relationship 12 months before you apply for a partner visa, yet you have to apply for this whilst outside of Oz! or am i reading this wrong !

Is there a list or maybe a recommendation for a RMA ?

Thanks


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technically we are not in a de facto relationship, though can provide evidence of internet calls etc that last for hours per day over the last year! on the 47SP form it says you have to be in a relationship 12 months before you apply for a partner visa, yet you have to apply for this whilst outside of Oz! or am i reading this wrong ! Is there a list or maybe a recommendation for a RMA ? Thanks
You have just answered the question. Unfortunately internet calls are weak supporting evidence to warrant a partner visa. Your case is what the Department refers to (dare I say) dating.

The relationship doesn't have to have been continuous or existed in Australia, but it must be 12 months immediately prior to lodging your application.

We have few RMAs who frequent this forum. CCMS, Mark Northam, etc...

Here's a website that gives you the listing of RMAs: https://www.mara.gov.au/


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technically we are not in a de facto relationship, though can provide evidence of internet calls etc that last for hours per day over the last year!

on the 47SP form it says you have to be in a relationship 12 months before you apply for a partner visa, yet you have to apply for this whilst outside of Oz! or am i reading this wrong !

Is there a list or maybe a recommendation for a RMA ?

Thanks
I'd lived with my girlfriend for 10 months, in her country, but known her for 14 months.
That was not sufficient for a Partner Visa. We had to do the PMV

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Part of the Examples of this evidence include:

evidence that you are living together (example: lease agreements, joint local authority registration under the same address, mortgage documents, council rate notices, utility bills

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evidence of contact during times of separation.
You seem to fulfill the second part, but not the first

The 47SP quotes:

Partner means your spouse or de facto partner.

Immigration Definition of De Facto Relationships
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A de facto relationship is one where the parties have a mutual commitment to a shared life as partners (of opposite-sex or same-sex) to the exclusion of all others.
Living together is regarded as a common element in most on-going relationships and is one of the criteria prescribed in the Migration Regulations.
Partners who are currently not living together will be required to demonstrate a high level of proof that they are not living separately and apart on a permanent basis.

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