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Old 04-15-2013, 09:59 AM
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Do you have proof of your time living together at his mother's? i.e. correspondence to the both of you? That, in combination with a statutory declaration from his mother stating that you lived with her for that period should hopefully be enough proof, especially given as you'll have been living together independently for a year by the time you apply and will have proof for that. So the time at this mother's would just be a bonus to prove, no?

I haven't seen any comment anywhere about age being a massive concern (as long as your over 18, obviously), but then I'm only just starting to research. I would assume that as long as you've got enough proof of the seriousness of your relationship, you'll be fine.

Yes, I noticed that there's no longer any need to pay a deposit to prove the Australian side of the partnership does have the savings/financial means to support the migrating partner.
But from what I've read so far, they ask of you to provide information about accommodation in Australia (where are you going to stay, are you providing accommodation for your partner) and the employment situation (employed/job secured so that you're able to support etc.). So there might be some questions raised as to whether you'll be able to support your partner while he is searching for a job himself.

We're lucky in that my partner does own property in Australia (currently rented out) and has his old job waiting for him when he returns.

Have you thought about how you're going to finance that initial period in Australia? And do you have family/friends to stay with while sort out a place of your own?


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You guys are so lucky you can plan in advance. I got offered a job I couldn't refuse back home a month ago so all system go for us. Have the removes lists here today and I fly tomorrow with a 2yr old and no hubby :-(

With the police checks we didn't do his as I thought they request it later - is this wrong? This waiting is going to drive me crazy but I think we are going to get him to come over on a tourist visa and visit so we aren't seperated the entire time.

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Old 04-15-2013, 10:11 AM
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We have bank statements addressed to both names at that address and we both have a paper from the apartment company saying we lived at that apartment. In the bank statements we also paid rent to his mother (through our joint account). It would be great if his mother could sign a statutory agreement but doesn't that need to be signed also by a justice of the peace? I'm not sure we would be able to find one in Switzerland! haha.

When we arrive (hopefully) in Australia we plan to stay with my father until we both get jobs. The thing is i need to study so i'd probably be on a student allowance and he will be the main money maker (which i don't plan to write like that to the case worker because i realize it is supposed to be me supporting him although his able to get a job on the 309 visa)
Do you know if i actually have to have a job confirmed by a business?

Thank you for your help, i really appreciate it!


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Old 04-15-2013, 10:33 AM
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@Nomes79:

I had assumed that you need to provide the police clearance certificate with your application. The medical on the other hand is only done after the Australian High Commission requests it (this is for London, mind).

Applicants for Citizenship by Descent aged 18 and over, applying in London require a police clearance. They must provide a clearance for each country they have resided in for more than 12 months since reaching the age of 18. This includes Australia.

[source: http://www.uk.embassy.gov.au/lhlh/immi_character.html]

I would check though with the office your submitting your application to.

Poor you, having to leave your hubby behind. If it was me I'd definitely get the tourist visa sorted out as quickly as possible. Though he'd probably have to apply for the partner visa first, no, before he leaves for Australia? I've read that if you let your case officer know about your situation they'll let you know before the partner visa is granted so the migrating partner can travel outside of Australia (as that's where he needs to be when it's granted if he lodged offshore).

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Well that sounds like plenty of proof regarding the two of you living together!

You don't need an Australian justice of peace to witness the statutory declarations, just the equivalent in the country you're living in.

For Switzerland the Australian Embassy in Germany (also responsible for Switzerland and Liechtenstein) says this about certified copies:

- An official of your local registration/passport office
- A notary public


[source: http://www.germany.embassy.gov.au/be...ified_en.html]

For statutory declaration requirements, have a look at Form 888 (Statutory declaration by a supporting witness relating to a partner visa application) on the Immi website, it states:

If you are outside Australia and are unable to get an Australian citizen or Australian permanent resident to complete a statutory declaration in support of your relationship with your partner, you may obtain statements from people who know you and your sponsor. Such statements are not statutory declarations under Australian law. However, in accordance with policy, they should be witnessed or certified according to the legal practices of the relevant country. Failing that, they should be witnessed by a person whose occupation or qualification is comparable to those listed above. This person should sign, date and specify their occupation at the bottom of the statement.
You should confirm the requirements with the nearest Australian mission overseas when you lodge your application. Contact details for Australian missions are available on the department’s website

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Old 04-15-2013, 10:41 AM
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@rhirhi:

In the form the sponsor has to fill out (40SP) it says:

You will also need to demonstrate that you will be able to meet your sponsorship obligations as undertaken by you when you complete and sign this form (see ‘Your sponsorship undertaking’ below). The information requested on this form, including documents relating to your employment and income, will assist the decision-maker in deciding whether you are able to meet these obligations.

I don't think there's actually any section in the form that asks for details about your employment situation / income but I get the feeling that is something that might be requested if you are not providing it with the application. Or it might come up in an interview if you have to go through one of them.

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Old 04-15-2013, 11:00 AM
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You should be a case worker! haha! You know exactly where to look and what you are doing.

I think i'll give the immigration office in London a call again. I called them last week and asked them (briefly) about the finance side of things and she said you know longer need to prove savings but she didnt mention weather or not i have to show i have a job lined up.

It's just so much to read and complete....i feel like their are so many things you can mis interpret, get caught with or miss...

hopefully we can work something out! Will you work when you get to Australia?

Thanks again!


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Old 04-15-2013, 11:10 AM
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good luck

Yes it is best to have completed the police check and submit with visa application. Also there is some expectation that the sponsor (Aussie) has the means to support the applicant, though you are right in saying there is no deposit for a spousal/PMV visa.
I would also ask the neighbour to your mother for a stat dec stating that she has witnessed you living at your mother's house. If you can't get a JP to witness your declaration try some one of standing in the community ie: someone from the council/mayor - policeman.
The age is un-important as long as you have the evidence to support the fact that you are in a relationship. The more evidence the better
A statement from your mum in Australia saying that you both have free accommodation in the family home will also go a long way. Remeber it is normal for some familes to have more than one generation living under the same roof.
Hope this helps

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Old 04-15-2013, 11:15 AM
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@ aussieboy

Thanks for your input.

Do you know what type of proof should i give for financially supporting my partner?

Thanks


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Old 04-15-2013, 11:17 AM
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@rhirhi:

Yes, I'll be looking for a job as soon as I get there. I work in IT and hope to find a job within a reasonable amount of time...


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Old 04-15-2013, 11:27 AM
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@rhirhi:

Yes, I'll be looking for a job as soon as I get there. I work in IT and hope to find a job within a reasonable amount of time...
Is it acceptable to just state you plan to look for a job when you get to Australia? would i actually have to show them i have a job ready? it doesnt seem realistic considering you have to apply 9 months before you 'may' get the visa....


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