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Old 05-14-2013, 11:59 AM
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Hey everyone, this site is really amazing and gives everyone out there alot of information but I am not sure what to do so i'm writing my own thread.

So my story is that my girlfriend and I have been together for about a year but I live in Australia and she lives in Russia so we haven't had much chance to live together, we've had a quite a few holidays she has come here we both went to Europe and now I'm going to Russia to visit.
Anyway we want to live together in Australia and so we looked at which visas she can apply for and basically we have 2 options, study visa so she can live with me for 12 months or more and then apply for defacto visa after that, or prospective marriage visa, but we don't really want to get married just yet, so is the student visa to de facto visa the only to go? We don't wish to lie to the immigration department we simply want to live together here but seems almost impossible without living together for 12 months first.

Sorry for such a long post but thought it was important to know about our situation, if anyone has information or experience with this please write back to me and let me know how it went for you, I will be very greatful.
Thanks for reading and have a great day,

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Old 05-14-2013, 12:54 PM
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I have a friend who has been using student visas for some time to stay with her partner (who cannot sponsor her because he sponsored someone else less than 5 years ago).
You do not have to do a full uni course - there are many cheaper alternatives. The most popular seems to be English courses, but my friend has been doing business courses.
On the student visa, your partner would have some minimal working rights as well.
While you can have the 12 month cohabiation requirement waived if you marry or register the relationship, you still need to provide a lot of evidence of things like joint finances, cobabitation, social, nature of committment etc.
I would reckon that a student visa -- or even a skills visa if your partner has any needed skills -- is a better option for you guys.

I'm not an immigration agent... just a fellow victim of the system.

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Unless you live in NSW, the student visa will be the best option. She will have a very large evidence requirement to meet also. There will be very high requirements for financial capacity and genuine study requirements. Have someone prep the app and guide you on course before making this decision.

Another option, unless you are already living in NSW, move to NSW. Registering the relationship there can make the de-facto requirements easier to meet, and you GF does not have to be in Australia.

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Old 05-14-2013, 01:32 PM
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Thanks for your replies guys really appreciated! Seems like alot of people have these problems, I understand why the immigration department make it hard to live in Australia but yeh it's really frustrating how hard it is.
I didn't know about that in NSW so thanks for that Chris, I live in Melbourne so would prefer to stay here but I'll look at any options.

I wonder if what course you study makes a big difference to your de facto visa application, like if you apply for a course which is under skills australia needs then would that make it more likely they would grant a visa, compared with just say a vocational course which isn't under the skills australia needs.
I understand that when you apply for Student Visa you are suppose to genuinely expect to live here temporary, whereas we know we want her to stay here permanately so how do you explain that?

Seems so complicated and yes we will definately be getting professional advice, I was just interested if anybody else has had these issues and what their experience was like?

Cheers for the replies guys


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Old 05-14-2013, 08:33 PM
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I understand that when you apply for Student Visa you are suppose to genuinely expect to live here temporary, whereas we know we want her to stay here permanately so how do you explain that?
you don't!!! When applying you need to write a declaration that she intends* to return to Russia when the course is done....if she has family or assets in Russia this helps to show that she has reason to go back.....

*I 'intended' to stick to my diet this week.....what I actually did is another story

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Old 05-14-2013, 11:37 PM
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Thanks Valentine, gathered that you don't tell them was just wondering if there was another way, guess not but I think the system is complete joke but whatever that's my opinion haha
Looks like we'll go the study visa route, thanks all who replied


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HI DRAWDE,

I am in a very similar position to you although I am currently living overseas. I found these responses really informative as I have just this past month been looking at the Student Visa application for my partner to go to Australia & study next year 2015 & for us to live together in Australia!


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Hmmm,do u love him?


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refer to next message this one was not complete..


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Old 01-15-2015, 09:51 PM
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For me I applied for a visit visa for my partner for 12 months which was approved.

I had to show I would support her for the entire stay.
The downside is she can't work, can study for 3 months.

If your intention is just getting her into the country on a study visa but she really does not want to study, comes here and did not complete study etc that could be an issue in the future, unless she actually doe's want to study and will 100% then I guess study visa is good .

They are compassionate on applications on a human level so explaining your situation in a covering letter etc doe's help.

My cover letter was 4 pages long. I'm sure it helped.

My partner also was from a "High Risk" country which took a bit longer to process.

Additionally on her visa there is no condition "NO FURTHER STAY" so she is entitled to apply for another visa while here, which we are planning to do shortly to further her stay

Good luck


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