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Old 06-07-2013, 06:51 PM
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Hi there,
I'm trying to apply for the partner visa and not sure on my chances. Been with my australian partner for 3 years. Just got married in May. Don't have much to our name, haven't lived in our own place together, and have a lot of time seperated. Anyone else in this situation that has been granted the partner visa?
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Old 06-07-2013, 07:24 PM
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Hi there,
I'm trying to apply for the partner visa and not sure on my chances. Been with my australian partner for 3 years. Just got married in May. Don't have much to our name, haven't lived in our own place together, and have a lot of time seperated. Anyone else in this situation that has been granted the partner visa?
Thanks!


Hey Alex,

This is not immigration advice, but here are my thoughts:

I read from your other post that you and your partner lived together in a dorm room for 9 months and then together under your parents' roof for a total of 12 months; is that right? If at all possible, it would be very beneficial to your offshore partner visa application (offshore, yeah?) for you to have at least one friend from your dorm building and at least one parent whom you lived with write statutory declarations (Form 888) stating that they know you lived together and they believe your relationship is genuine and exclusive. If these people are Australian citizens or permanent residents, they could count toward your minimum of 2 statutory declarations required for the offshore application. If not, they would still provide great evidence for your case.

Given that you have been in a relationship for 3 years, lived together in the same place for over 1 year, and are now married, you are definitely eligible for the offshore (or onshore, if you so choose) partner visa and you have a very good chance of your application being granted, so long as you can provide evidence of your relationship.

It is definitely beneficial to have paperwork to both your and your partner's names, such as leases, bills, car insurance, etc., but it is not always entirely necessary if you can provide other forms of evidence. however, if you have not already begun, I would suggest collecting as much evidence as possible starting now. 1) Do you and your partner share any finances or pay for anything together (this includes planned trips, wedding expenses, groceries, date night expenses, gas, gifts for each other, joint gifts for family members, etc.)? If so, pull together receipts. 2) Do you have a joint bank account? If not I suggest opening one together ASAP. 3) Do you have pictures of the two of you together (the DIAC especially likes pictures of you and your partner with friends and family)? 4) Did you chat by Skype, Facebook, email, phone, etc. or send each other cards or packages while apart (the DIAC doesn't want long conversation transcripts or phone cards, but you can let them know you have it available if they need more evidence)?

I'm gonna PM you my story in case you wanna read it because its a bit similar.

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Old 06-07-2013, 07:33 PM
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HI!
thanks for replying!
okay I will get more statutory declarations from other people, I was thinking they only had to be from Australian citizens/perm residents.

We have some shared finances that I have kept receipts for like a coffee date or movie stubs. We do have a joint bank account that we opened Feb 2012 but I don't really do much with it, it basically just has both of our names on it..We have tons of pictures together that I can include making sure they are not just of us but in different cities and with friends and family. We do chat on Skype and Facebook-gosh the facebook chat could be a book long!
I will download the skype sessions since it shows the start of video and when it ended so that could show that we chatted for a while! I did not think about the skype thanks!

Yes I would love your story!

Thanks!


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Old 06-07-2013, 08:16 PM
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HI!
thanks for replying!
okay I will get more statutory declarations from other people, I was thinking they only had to be from Australian citizens/perm residents.

We have some shared finances that I have kept receipts for like a coffee date or movie stubs. We do have a joint bank account that we opened Feb 2012 but I don't really do much with it, it basically just has both of our names on it..We have tons of pictures together that I can include making sure they are not just of us but in different cities and with friends and family. We do chat on Skype and Facebook-gosh the facebook chat could be a book long!
I will download the skype sessions since it shows the start of video and when it ended so that could show that we chatted for a while! I did not think about the skype thanks!

Yes I would love your story!

Thanks!
Oh booger! You can't receive PMs until you have submitted a minimum number of posts. Oh well. I will post it here in a minute,

You do need to have at least two statutory declarations from Australian citizens and permanent residents, but you definitely can and should provide certified statements from others (Australian citizen or not) if you think they will help to demonstrate the genuineness of your relationship.

That's awesome that you have a joint bank account, but you should use it! Even if its just each adding $10 a month to the account to demonstrate saving for your future or using your joint card for coffee dates and movie tickets rather than your personal card to demonstrate shared expenses.

In general, the DIAC asks that you limited the number of pictures you submit (probably 10-20) and do not provide long chat conversations, so you might want to pick a selection of your favorite photos together and some short excerpts of your most supportive or lovey conversations. Hehe

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My story: O_O

I apologize in advance for length!

I was actually in a similar situation to you, except possibly with less evidence. I submitted my offshore partner visa application (309/100) in mid-April, and my visa was granted in early-May. Now, let me clarify that this is not the norm; my visa was processed in 2.5 weeks when the average processing time is 5-12 months. I feel incredibly lucky for hearing back so quickly, but it does go to show that it is possible. A lot of people in this forum argue about how much you should provide (because you don't want to provide too little). Some will say, "throw everything you have at them! Better safe than sorry!". But lately, some have been shifting to the idea that submitting "just enough" is better because it gives your case officer less paperwork to sort through and become bogged down in. After looking through these forums, I was originally petrified that I had not provided enough evidence, but obviously, for my case, what I submitted was sufficient. Ultimately, it's up to you how much you want to provide, but here's my story: hehe

So my (de facto) partner and I met while I was visiting Australia for a few weeks to attend a wedding, and we started dating shortly after I returned to the US (without him). We have been in a relationship for almost 3 years now, but we have only been together (in the same place) for about 16 months of that time because of work and school commitments and visa restrictions. When we started dating, I was still at college in the US and my partner was working in Oz, and now I have graduated but my partner has gone back to University in Oz. When we're apart we Skype every day we can, and we also play games online. I sent him a number of written cards, and he sent me a few as well.

While I was at college, he visited me for a month and met my family. After I graduated, I moved to Australia for a year on a temporary visa and lived with him and his parents. And after I returned to the US, he visited me for 3 months in between Uni semesters. Because we are both students / recently graduated, we always lived with our parents to save money, so we never had any utility bills, home leases or rentals, or joint car insurance either. We did, however, open a joint bank account and use it for small purchases (groceries, gas, date nights, etc.), and we also registered our de-facto relationship before I left Oz. We took a few short trips together, joined a gym, took a number of pictures, and had a few mutual friends, but not much else.

As a result, the only relationship evidence I provided with my application was:

1) our de facto relationship registration certificate
2) 2 notarized stat. dec.'s from Australian citizens (Form 88: one from his mum and one from a mutual friend)
3) a joint bank account statement printed at the bank and date stamped by a clerk
4) ~20 cards (some from me to my partner, some from him to me, some from our parents to the other SO, and some addressed to both of us)
5) a small photo album I made for our 2-year anni (mostly pics of us without friends and family - whoops)
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6) written statements from my partner and i

Because I love to write and am a super mushy person, my written statement ended up being about 8 pages long and very detailed. (But just so you know, many people only write 2 or so pages.) I made sure to explain why we were apart so often and how we stayed in touch during periods of separation. On a separate sheet, I also provided a list of further evidence I had been advised not to provide (500+ pages of Facebook messages, Skype call logs, a few emails, additional written cards, etc.) but could submit if more evidence was needed. (I'm not sure if that was necessary, though, because they never requested any additional relationship evidence from me).

So yeah! Every case is different, but I hope that eases your worries a bit. I am not an expert in this field, but feel free to contact me with any other questions and I'll do my best to answer.

Good luck and congratulations on your marriage!

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Old 06-07-2013, 08:25 PM
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Yea your story is a lot like mine!! Yes I know that is not the norm, I don't plan on getting accepted for at least 5 months-congrats to you though I wouldn't mind your friends, this is what you want in the long run so do you !!

I do have a few questions on the checklist.
1) It says you need certified copies of the biological data off the passport. What is that and where do I go to get that done?

2) Did you provide a certified copy of your birth certificate?

3) How did you present your application? I see you are not supposed to use stapes etc.

That's all I can think of right now. Thanks!


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You do need to have at least two statutory declarations from Australian citizens and permanent residents, but you definitely can and should provide certified statements from others (Australian citizen or not) if you think they will help to demonstrate the genuineness of your relationship.
Actually, as long as you are applying OFF shore (NOT IN AUSTRLIA) --

"If you are outside Australia:
If you are outside Australia and are unable to get an Australian citizen or Australian permanent resident
to complete a statutory declaration in support of your relationship with your partner, you may obtain
statements from people who know you and your sponsor. Such statements are not statutory declarations
under Australian law. However, in accordance with policy, they should be witnessed or certified according
to the legal practices of the relevant country. Failing that, they should be witnessed by a person
whose occupation or qualification is comparable to a person included in the prescribed persons list on
pages 28–29. This person should sign, date and specify their occupation or qualification at the bottom of
the statement.
You should confirm the requirements with the nearest Australian mission overseas when you lodge your
application. Contact details for Australian missions are available from the department’s website
www.immi.gov.au/contacts/"

From the Partner Migration Booklet.

However, if you are able to get stat decs from Aussie PRs or Citizens, it's definitely better.

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Yea I have 3 Australian Citizens giving me seperate declarations so I am good there..I was just unsure about the rest of them! Thanks!


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