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Old 01-07-2010, 04:22 AM
 
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From Ireland to Australia

Hello All,

I came to Australia in September 2009 when the world recession took it's toll on Ireland. I was made redundant from my job and decided to take the leep and move out on a Working Holiday Visa. I arrived in Australia in search of work and I was lucky to find a great job in Financial Services - something similar to my previous role in Ireland. When my working holiday visa finished in September I was offered sponsorship. Since then I have been waiting in limbo for my 457 Visa to come through and still no sign.

Stumbled across this website and was surprised how many questions it answered for me!

I just had a couple of questions about the defacto Visa - my boyfriend of 6 years lives in Ireland and we've been living apart now for 1 year and 3 months. During this period he has visited Australia once and I have been home twice. He cannot get a visa of any kind as he already used his 1 year working holiday visa (417) a few years back when he was travelling. He didn't even spent a year in Australia that time! Anyways we would have sufficient proof of our relationship over the past 6 years (emails, phone records, joint statements from Ireland) but nothing in Australia.
What would be our chances of him going Defacto on my 457?

Any help would be appreciated!!!


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I just had a couple of questions about the defacto Visa - my boyfriend of 6 years lives in Ireland and we've been living apart now for 1 year and 3 months. During this period he has visited Australia once and I have been home twice. He cannot get a visa of any kind as he already used his 1 year working holiday visa (417) a few years back when he was travelling. He didn't even spent a year in Australia that time! Anyways we would have sufficient proof of our relationship over the past 6 years (emails, phone records, joint statements from Ireland) but nothing in Australia.
What would be our chances of him going Defacto on my 457?

Any help would be appreciated!!!


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Old 01-07-2010, 06:45 AM
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Hi niamhooo, welcome to the forum and pleased to hear Australia has been kind to you while you're on the WHV.

As to including your Bf on your 457 visa, it may be possible and I say "may" because it is a little unspecified, ie. have a look at partner visas or eligibility for secondary applicants on permanent visas and you'll find reference to a 12 months relationship and requirements to support that in the period just prior to application.
Partner Visa: Offshore Temporary and Permanent (Subclasses 309 and 100)

You then look at a 457 secondary applicant:
Temporary Business (Long Stay) - Standard Business Sponsorship (Subclass 457)
And for partner, there's very little other than a definition.

The reason for that being that the 457 is only a temporary visa and so any secondary applicant will also be only temporary.

I've not paid particular attention to what is asked for on the application form re partner information and you may want to check the application form in the applying for this visa section .His inclusion on your application will immediately stick out with you in Oz and Bf in Ireland but if you have sound reasoning for that, your initial loss of work and travel to seek it and you have the trips and correspondence to show a relationship
continuing, it could be OK.

I've also been told verbally by an Immi person on one occasion that secondary applicants can be added to a 457 after one has been granted and that a relationship test is less stringent, 6 months together being mentioned but you cannot always go on what you get verbally being correct.

If the sponsoring company is using an agent, it may be worth getting a word in to see what they say, or alternately ringing Immi and seeing if you can make an appointment to see someone or just heading into the local office to talk to someone - have your relationship data well documented and any evidence you can supply.

Or just get him added as a secondary applicant pronto before the 457 gets granted is probably better and they'll either knock him back or accept him.
If knocking him back, it should not affect a grant to yours but that's something you can check with Immi when contacting them on getting him added.





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Old 01-07-2010, 11:15 AM
 
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I saw a suggestion on a live chat thingy on the visafirst website and asked them about defacto visa. They explained that they guarantee the defacto visa as long as all info provided is accurate. May be worth discussing it with them, that way no visa, no fee


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Old 01-08-2010, 04:34 AM
 
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Hello Wanderer,

Thank you so much for the information. I was hoping you would get back to me as you seem to have all the knowledge!! I think it's best to speak with immigration or an agent and see what the chances are. I just assumed the requirements for the permanent visa were the same as the 457 temporary (long stay). And you're right that section of the website is quite vague.
I really appreciate your time in replying! I will keep you posted.


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