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Old 02-05-2010, 06:05 PM
 
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Hi there, I'm a newbie!

Hi all,

I'm really hoping to get some sound advice about a move to Australia. My partner is a university lecturer and will be seeking employment to be sponsored to get the visa. I haven't worked for 3 years due to an illness called M.E. / C.F.S. but managed to get a diploma in the last year as in Reflexology and has started some part time work. Now, my issue is this, we are concerned about the health checks as an immigration agent pointed out to me about the thorough checks they do to assess if we would be a drain to the health care system. Both myself and my partner (who has epilepsy) take medication and require no other support for our illness. Is this considered an issue? The immigration agent was quite abrupt about it and would not assess us any further. I'm a little bewildered now if we should be looking for a job for my partner. Any suggestions?

Thanks to all who reply giving us an insight as to where we should be going next.

Scoobysue


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Old 02-06-2010, 04:55 AM
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Hi all,

I'm really hoping to get some sound advice about a move to Australia. My partner is a university lecturer and will be seeking employment to be sponsored to get the visa. I haven't worked for 3 years due to an illness called M.E. / C.F.S. but managed to get a diploma in the last year as in Reflexology and has started some part time work. Now, my issue is this, we are concerned about the health checks as an immigration agent pointed out to me about the thorough checks they do to assess if we would be a drain to the health care system. Both myself and my partner (who has epilepsy) take medication and require no other support for our illness. Is this considered an issue? The immigration agent was quite abrupt about it and would not assess us any further. I'm a little bewildered now if we should be looking for a job for my partner. Any suggestions?

Thanks to all who reply giving us an insight as to where we should be going next.

Scoobysue
Hi Sue and welcome to the forum.
It seems you can even get the wrong sort of people with IAs and I suppose that is not too abnormal for there's good and bad in all walks of life so the saying goes.
The ones that post on the forum all seem friendly enough and are prepared to give their time and advise in respect to some matters.

The state of ones health is certainly something that is taken into account in the immigration process, it being a quasi arms length approach you could say in that whereas the Immigration legislation obviously covers it, it is left up to Medical professionals to make an assessment and that assessment is largely on the basis of what the risk could be of any diseases to Australians in terms of health and what cost may be to the community.

Thus you'll find in the descriptions available that there is mention of a couple of more serious transmittable and chronic illnesses though no statement of definite preclusion.
Health Requirements for Visa Applicants and Form 1071 linked there in particular covers what is available without indepth research of actual legislation.

There is currently running in Australia a government committee hearing into the immigration health situation and I think http://www.aph.gov.au/House/committe...lity/index.htm may be the link which could have some interesting reading.

Personally, I would think it would be great if people were able to avail themselves of a medical examination and clearance re existing issues so they could know of whether to continue as in your case.

About the only way I suspect anyone might get a meaningful guide as it stands at the moment would be if they were able to find a panel doctor who was approachable enough to be prepared to inform of what their findings were [ quite possibly meaning that they would be in breach of their directives ] or at least give a very unofficial indicative nod or shake of the head.
Some people do what is called frontloading of medicals in that they'll get their medical examination done before or at the same time as making an application and doctors are supposed to send reports direct to the Immigration medical section in Australia or the locals if handling an immigration application overseas [ but that is not the case with skilled visas ], so you could be no better off.

Ideally, if a panel doctor was approachable enough to just discuss what may be an outcome re particular disease/illness, that could be guide but still even further from official and I'd suspect there'd not be too many doctors about prepared to venture down either that path or as I've alluded to above.

It could also be that some cases also get reviewed by medical practitioners in Australia and so even recommendations by the overseas doctors may not be the final outcome.

So all that is not a positive indication for you but you may take some comfort in the knowledge that many immigrants do have medical conditions of one form or another and so people are not just outrightly refused and especially it would seem where their health is coped with via medication.

Another approach you may want to try is looking up a number of different IAs and in making first contact ask them how much experience they have with dealing with applicants who have had a medical issue.
It is only through their experience that way and if they keep some sort of records they may have something of value to advise.
Obviously, I'd not expect that they would discuss any particular cases but they may be able to give an indication of the types of medical situations that have not precluded immigration.

I personally once read of someone whom I think if I recall properly was a diabetic [ and that was someone applying for a defacto visa after a romance had commenced following online contact].

In the other direction, there was a well publicised case where a Doctor was initially refused a permanent visa because he had a son with mild Downs Syndrome, a refusal being overturned by the Immigration Minister following a tribunal hearing and much community support.

If I come across any further historical type data I'll repost for you.





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The medical criteria are that an applicant doesn't have an infectious disease (which neither of you have) or any disease or condition that's likely to be an unreasonable cost on Australian society.

In terms of non-infectious diseases, no individual conditions are named; it's entirely an issue for the Medical Officer of the Commonwealth (MOC) to decide. Generally speaking, conditions that are controllable by medication don't cause a problem.

Your and your partner's conditions are certainly not conditions that will automatically cause your application to be rejected - the MOC's decision will depend on the severity of your respective conditions and the availability of medication to control them.

You will probably each be asked to obtain a specialist medical report, but based on the advice you've given in your post above, there is no need for either of you to be unduly alarmed.

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Hi Sue

The medical criteria are that an applicant doesn't have an infectious disease (which neither of you have) or any disease or condition that's likely to be an unreasonable cost on Australian society.

In terms of non-infectious diseases, no individual conditions are named; it's entirely an issue for the Medical Officer of the Commonwealth (MOC) to decide. Generally speaking, conditions that are controllable by medication don't cause a problem.

Your and your partner's conditions are certainly not conditions that will automatically cause your application to be rejected - the MOC's decision will depend on the severity of your respective conditions and the availability of medication to control them.

You will probably each be asked to obtain a specialist medical report, but based on the advice you've given in your post above, there is no need for either of you to be unduly alarmed.

Best regards
Susan
Thanks for that input Susan, something to help ScoobySue appreciate where they're likely to be at health wise.





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Hi Sue

The medical criteria are that an applicant doesn't have an infectious disease (which neither of you have) or any disease or condition that's likely to be an unreasonable cost on Australian society.

In terms of non-infectious diseases, no individual conditions are named; it's entirely an issue for the Medical Officer of the Commonwealth (MOC) to decide. Generally speaking, conditions that are controllable by medication don't cause a problem.

Your and your partner's conditions are certainly not conditions that will automatically cause your application to be rejected - the MOC's decision will depend on the severity of your respective conditions and the availability of medication to control them.

You will probably each be asked to obtain a specialist medical report, but based on the advice you've given in your post above, there is no need for either of you to be unduly alarmed.

Best regards
Susan
Hi Susan

Thank you so much for your reply on this matter. You really have given me hope of getting through the application! At the same time as writing my query I wrote to the ME Association (UK) who found my question very interesting and Australia House in London. It will be interesting to see what their responses are too. It's always great to know advice is coming from a registered IA. I may bother you with questions again in the future! Thanks!

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Hi Wanderer,

Thank you so much for your detailed reply. I am into so much research as I'm sure you well understand, it's great to know someone will offer free advice with these kind of matters. Thanks again and no doubt I'll have more queries all too soon!

Scoobysue


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