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Yes the eligibility date for the 801 is for PR, (as the 801 is the Permanent visa) it's when you're eligible to apply not when it will be granted.

Yours is March 2017 by the sounds of it, so yes, you can start the application process in January 2017 if you wish, although given the wait times at the moment applying early seems to make no difference. They wont look at it until March or later anyway.
Ahhh now that makes sense! 801 IS the PR!
Once that's done and PR done I can go straight for citizenship too I believe as I'll have been here for 4 years, seems daunting!

Thanks guys for answering, this forum is amazing :)
 

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Ahhh now that makes sense! 801 IS the PR! Once that's done and PR done I can go straight for citizenship too I believe as I'll have been here for 4 years, seems daunting! Thanks guys for answering, this forum is amazing :)
For citizenship you have to have been a PR for a year, so one year after you were granted PR you can apply for citizenship. There are other requirements too, such as time spent outside Australia etc but they're easy to meet for most people :)
 

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For citizenship you have to have been a PR for a year, so one year after you were granted PR you can apply for citizenship. There are other requirements too, such as time spent outside Australia etc but they're easy to meet for most people :)
Tarlar could you please post the link for requirements for citizenship if yoi got one. So far I found only time requirements such as you have to stay in Aus continuously 4 years with max period of time travelling putside up to 1 year and holding pr at least one year and withing this one year go outside of Australia only max for 90 days. Thanks in advance
 

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Tarlar could you please post the link for requirements for citizenship if yoi got one. So far I found only time requirements such as you have to stay in Aus continuously 4 years with max period of time travelling putside up to 1 year and holding pr at least one year and withing this one year go outside of Australia only max for 90 days. Thanks in advance
https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Citi/Appl/How-to-apply/Application-process-for-Australian-citizenship

Under heading two it states that you have to have been in Australia for 4 years lawfully with the last 12 months as a PR. Hope that helps! :)
 

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It has been 13 months as of yesterday, and I received the "progressed in the queue" Perth email at the end of October. I wonder whether it might take a bit longer as I should be eligible to go straight to the 801, having been married 15 years? Does anyone have experience with recent timeframes on applying for the 820 and receiving the 801?
 

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I will be applying in the next couple of weeks. I had a quick question regarding evidence. Can I just apply with the standard forms, pay the fee and upload evidence over the next month or so after my application? Or is it best practice to get this all in straight away when you apply?
 

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I will be applying in the next couple of weeks. I had a quick question regarding evidence. Can I just apply with the standard forms, pay the fee and upload evidence over the next month or so after my application? Or is it best practice to get this all in straight away when you apply?
i applied 12th of april 2015 and still being uploading evidences
 

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I will be applying in the next couple of weeks. I had a quick question regarding evidence. Can I just apply with the standard forms, pay the fee and upload evidence over the next month or so after my application? Or is it best practice to get this all in straight away when you apply?
Best to get everything up within the first few weeks, with the exception of police checks and medical exam which can be done about 4-6 months after the initial application components are submitted. The most probable risk of taking several months to complete the uploads is that you could forget about one or two items that are required if you don't complete the application uploads while it is fresh on your mind. The other risk, which is less likely but has been mentioned on the forum before, is that DIBP can look at your application at any time and rule based on existing evidence without contacting you first. If your application has little supporting evidence, they could reject it in order to clear the queue of clearly insufficient applications.
 

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Best to get everything up within the first few weeks, with the exception of police checks and medical exam which can be done about 4-6 months after the initial application components are submitted. The most probable risk of taking several months to complete the uploads is that you could forget about one or two items that are required if you don't complete the application uploads while it is fresh on your mind. The other risk, which is less likely but has been mentioned on the forum before, is that DIBP can look at your application at any time and rule based on existing evidence without contacting you first. If your application has little supporting evidence, they could reject it in order to clear the queue of clearly insufficient applications.
Thanks, I have all the evidence so that should be fine. Can upload it within a couple of weeks.

So to get started you fill in the form online and pay, do you need to provide all the copies of birth certs and passports etc at that stage? Or can that be uploaded over the couple of weeks? Essentially my question is what do you need to provide at moment of payment?

Also with regards to certified copies, if you scan in colour do you still need to get them certified? As I have all the originals?

Final question I promise! We have been engaged for around 8 months, however we are not getting married till summer 2017, and we are onshore so looking at the 820 visa. However on the form it says are you defacto or engaged? Will it cause an issue if we are engaged, but are applying for the defacto visa rather than PMV.

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Hello!

so...I will hit 14 months in a few days and got an email from immi today requesting more evidence, so I thought they wanted me to redo my medicals and police check since it has been well over a year.

Opening the email and attachments - HEART ATTACK - they are requesting evidence of my relationship from lodgement to present, specifically they are requesting evidence showing that we are

● have a mutual commitment to a shared life to the exclusion of all others;
● have a relationship that is genuine and continuing;
● live together; or do not live separately and apart on a permanent basis; and
● are not related by family

There I was at work, thinking what could i have possibly missed - we have already included everything we could think of in the initial lodgement (Dec 14), e.g. our lease agreement, form 888 from friends and colleagues, photos with family and friends and our travel, utility bills, bank statements that mail to our address, and our joint account (though arguably we hadn't used it all that much back then); we even included the entire whatsapp conversation thread since we had started chatting on whatsapp! the only thing that we could upload is an invitation to the CO to come to our home and live with us....(which, is potentially an easier way to judge if a couple is in a genuine relationship than reviewing a stack of paper, IMO)

Luckily we did purchase an apartment last year and that is some sort of relationship milestone/progress that the CO may want to see (though I was trying to save that for 801 evidence that we will need to submit very soon?! and if so, what evidence can i possibly produce by the end of this year stating that our relationship has progressed?!)

So I do plan to upload all the utility bills from lodgement till present, bank statements of our joint account from lodgement till present and the apartment purchase agreement. I am not too sure what else can I possibly include on top of the above though?

And really, what if we are just financially unable to purchase a property? like i mean, not everyone is able to/foolish enough to purchase a property here in Sydney when the housing affordability is at its new low?! and to be honest, once and when your relationship is at a more settled stage, you don't tend to do as much of extravagant activities with your other half, you live a stable life like a long term stable couple would, and not everyone wants/can have a baby.

Anyone else got a similar request from immi? what else would you include if you were me?
 

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Hi guys.
I lodged my application on 18th November 2014 and I finally got my grant notice this morning! Good luck to you all!

Funny thing is I am going overseas for holiday in the next 2 weeks and applied for bridging visa b earlier. So I wasted 140 dollars. Haha but it's all good.
 

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So to get started you fill in the form online and pay, do you need to provide all the copies of birth certs and passports etc at that stage? Or can that be uploaded over the couple of weeks? Essentially my question is what do you need to provide at moment of payment?
Fill in the form and pay, and immediately start the sponsor's form. I now can't remember if you have to complete the sponsor's form before you pay, but we essentially did those things in one go. I uploaded all the identity documents immediately, then spent the next week getting all the documents up. One of the form 888 was uploaded around the 4 week mark, then we uploaded a final "cover" letter listing all the documents and pointed out the length of our marriage to flag the application for immediate 801 consideration.

Also with regards to certified copies, if you scan in colour do you still need to get them certified? As I have all the originals?
We uploaded colour scans of everything, but had the identity documents and marriage certificate certified, as well as all the statutory declarations and witness identity documents.

Final question I promise! We have been engaged for around 8 months, however we are not getting married till summer 2017, and we are onshore so looking at the 820 visa. However on the form it says are you defacto or engaged? Will it cause an issue if we are engaged, but are applying for the defacto visa rather than PMV.
I wouldn't think that this would cause a problem as many people apply onshore defacto (and then certainly may decide to get married). Simply on this forum, I believe, applied defacto but then got married several months into the application and sent the certificate as further evidence. However, if you are concerned you could pose the question in the Ask Mark thread.
 

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Hello!

so...I will hit 14 months in a few days and got an email from immi today requesting more evidence, so I thought they wanted me to redo my medicals and police check since it has been well over a year.

Opening the email and attachments - HEART ATTACK - they are requesting evidence of my relationship from lodgement to present, specifically they are requesting evidence showing that we are

● have a mutual commitment to a shared life to the exclusion of all others;
● have a relationship that is genuine and continuing;
● live together; or do not live separately and apart on a permanent basis; and
● are not related by family

There I was at work, thinking what could i have possibly missed - we have already included everything we could think of in the initial lodgement (Dec 14), e.g. our lease agreement, form 888 from friends and colleagues, photos with family and friends and our travel, utility bills, bank statements that mail to our address, and our joint account (though arguably we hadn't used it all that much back then); we even included the entire whatsapp conversation thread since we had started chatting on whatsapp! the only thing that we could upload is an invitation to the CO to come to our home and live with us....(which, is potentially an easier way to judge if a couple is in a genuine relationship than reviewing a stack of paper, IMO)

Luckily we did purchase an apartment last year and that is some sort of relationship milestone/progress that the CO may want to see (though I was trying to save that for 801 evidence that we will need to submit very soon?! and if so, what evidence can i possibly produce by the end of this year stating that our relationship has progressed?!)

So I do plan to upload all the utility bills from lodgement till present, bank statements of our joint account from lodgement till present and the apartment purchase agreement. I am not too sure what else can I possibly include on top of the above though?

And really, what if we are just financially unable to purchase a property? like i mean, not everyone is able to/foolish enough to purchase a property here in Sydney when the housing affordability is at its new low?! and to be honest, once and when your relationship is at a more settled stage, you don't tend to do as much of extravagant activities with your other half, you live a stable life like a long term stable couple would, and not everyone wants/can have a baby.

Anyone else got a similar request from immi? what else would you include if you were me?
Just upload what new evidence you have. Joint apartment purchase is quite solid. DIBP is aware that the time frame between 820 grant and 801 application isn't that great anymore though nowadays 801 processing times have increased to 6-12 months or somewhere in between. Just keep a record of your joint expenses and activities until 801 is granted.

Good luck :)
 

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Hi guys.
I lodged my application on 18th November 2014 and I finally got my grant notice this morning! Good luck to you all!

Funny thing is I am going overseas for holiday in the next 2 weeks and applied for bridging visa b earlier. So I wasted 140 dollars. Haha but it's all good.
Woohoo! Congrats:D
 

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Just upload what new evidence you have. Joint apartment purchase is quite solid. DIBP is aware that the time frame between 820 grant and 801 application isn't that great anymore though nowadays 801 processing times have increased to 6-12 months or somewhere in between. Just keep a record of your joint expenses and activities until 801 is granted.

Good luck :)
Thanks syd!

Yea..the processing time is getting crazier and crazier, at this point they may as well just process the 801s in one go given how by the time 820 is granted, visa holders are almost eligible for 801 lol

I hope utility bills and joint account statements showing monthly expenses is going to be enough...as we don't do much outside of our normal lives (as in travelling of sort) we are just a normal boring couple trying to pay off our mortgage and save up for wedding...
 

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Thanks syd!

Yea..the processing time is getting crazier and crazier, at this point they may as well just process the 801s in one go given how by the time 820 is granted, visa holders are almost eligible for 801 lol

I hope utility bills and joint account statements showing monthly expenses is going to be enough...as we don't do much outside of our normal lives (as in travelling of sort) we are just a normal boring couple trying to pay off our mortgage and save up for wedding...
Hi guys. I just get email from immi office. It says immi is experiencing high amount of partner visas this time. Therefore, average processing time is 13 months but actual processing time for each application can vary significantly.
 

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Hi guys. I just get email from immi office. It says immi is experiencing high amount of partner visas this time. Therefore, average processing time is 13 months but actual processing time for each application can vary significantly.
Hi skl

I think we are all expecting to hear back from 13 - 15 months, but I guess what made me so nervous after receiving the request additional info from immi is that, when everyone is waiting 13-15 months, why are they only asking me for additional relationship evidence? A lot of people on this forum just get their approvals without any contact, and I am confident that I have submitted similar amount and quality of evidence (as I did do my initial research here and follow through what other people had supplied).

and second point being, IF all 820 processing time takes 13-15 months, instead of having the same resources doing both 820 and 801, why don't they just drag 820 on to 24 months and directly process 801 in one go (with additional evidence of the 2-year gap of course)?
 

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Police check requested and provided

Hi Guys. Requested Partner PR onshore on the 23rd of June 2015.
Requested to swap to bridging via B in late October 2015 in order to go home for Xmas and to deal with some Italian bureaucracy.
Went home for 2 weeks, had to be back in Australia before the 21st of Jan.
Police check requested the 28th of Jan :eek: ( I didn't had it uploaded still as i knew the waiting time for partner temporary visa were over 12/15 months).
Uploaded the document yesterday, now waiting for a decision... super stressed and full of hope at the same time!
Do you think everything went faster because of the bridging visa request?
Anyone knows how many days they take to make the decision after document are provided?
 

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Unfortunately it still may be awhile. It is normal for someone to go through the files and if no police check to request it so it doesn't delay the processing when a case officer is assigned.

Also you won't get PR straight away unless you have been de facto or married 3 years (2 years with a child) at time of application.
 

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Unfortunately it still may be awhile. It is normal for someone to go through the files and if no police check to request it so it doesn't delay the processing when a case officer is assigned.

Also you won't get PR straight away unless you have been de facto or married 3 years (2 years with a child) at time of application.
Even with email startin like this?

"Processing your application

I have begun considering your application for this visa and require additional information"

Doesn't mean that the guy (visa processing officer) is my CO?
 
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