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Hi everyone, I’m oN PMV visa atm, applied the visa through an immigration agent. going to get married oN April.
For next step of 820 visa i would Like to do it my self. Just wondering is it difficult to do it our self?
Btw how long is Australian police certificate last for?
And do we have to do medical again for 820 visa? Thank all. much appreciated for all answers.
 

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Hi everyone, I'm oN PMV visa atm, applied the visa through an immigration agent. going to get married oN April.
For next step of 820 visa i would Like to do it my self. Just wondering is it difficult to do it our self?
Btw how long is Australian police certificate last for?
And do we have to do medical again for 820 visa? Thank all. much appreciated for all answers.
We did new police certificate for the 820.
No more medical is needed for the 820, after the PMV grant.

What is your PMV timeline?

We only did the Australian police check. Not the overseas one again, for the 820.
 
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Hi Jande. Thanks for Ur reply. So what stage are u atm? are u do it ur self as well for 820?
I lodged my PMV Dec 2018 granted 31 Jan 2020 from Indonesia.
So I don’t need police certificate from my country for me and my partner right?
thank you.
 

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hey anyone knows if you change mind and wanna live in other country after getting pr or 801 then for how long you can reside elsewhere and return to AU back for example and will you lose PR not living in AU?
 

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Hi Jande. Thanks for Ur reply. So what stage are u atm? are u do it ur self as well for 820?
I lodged my PMV Dec 2018 granted 31 Jan 2020 from Indonesia.
So I don't need police certificate from my country for me and my partner right?
thank you.
We did the 300, 820 and 801 ourselves, no agent. Got the PR 12 months ago, now lodging for Citizenship.

For the overseas Police Certificate, we only did the one from the Philippines for the 300, only the Australian one after that, for the 820 and 801. Haven't been back to the Philippines since a few months before the PMV was granted.
 

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hey anyone knows if you change mind and wanna live in other country after getting pr or 801 then for how long you can reside elsewhere and return to AU back for example and will you lose PR not living in AU?
The PR grant gives you a 5 year travel facility. At that point you need to get an RRV, for more time overseas.
immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/.../resident-return-visa-155-157
If you leave Australia after your travel validity expires, or it expires when you are outside Australia, you will not be able to return to Australia as a permanent resident.
However, some people do manage to return, if they prove substantial ties to Australia.
 
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1. I received my MY police clearance on 23/5/2019 and AU police clearance on 12/4/2019 while my partner's SG police clearance on 19/7/2019. Do you guys reckon we should reapply these police clearances?!
I think you should wait until they ask you to submit the police checks.

2. I am also thinking of updating some of my documents every 6 months to keep them updated. However, I have previously uploaded about 10 documents wrongly in my portal (silly me that wasted about 10 document slots). What happens if it reaches its max 100 documents limit? Can I still update my documents if I haven't been assigned a CO?
When you reach the 100 document limit there will be an option that helps you upload, so don't worry.

3. I understand that I can apply for 801, 2 years (which is on 6/6/2021) after I submitted my 820 application. What if I have not had my 820 granted after 2 years? Can I still apply for 801? Or I can only apply for 801 after I have been granted 820 and 2 years after I submitted my 820 application?
The two year thing is that you can only apply to 801 when you have 820 for two years, not when you apply to 820. You cannot apply for 801 until you have 820 for two years.
 

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The two year thing is that you can only apply to 801 when you have 820 for two years, not when you apply to 820. You cannot apply for 801 until you have 820 for two years.
The 801 eligibility date is two years after the 820 application date, not the 820 grant date.

The person you replied to applied for the 820 on 6 June 2019, and will be able to do the 801 uploads from 6 June 2021. (They allow one month earlier, so effectively 6 May 2021.)

Not sure exactly what happens if the 820 isn't granted within that 2 years though, but some people make an enquiry, and get the 801 granted.

Processing time for subclass 801 Partner (permanent) visa and 100 Partner (permanent) visa is from date of eligibility (2 years after the 820/801 or 309/100 application is lodged) to finalisation.
https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/vis...processing-times/global-visa-processing-times
 

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The 801 eligibility date is two years after the 820 application date, not the 820 grant date.

The person you replied to applied for the 820 on 6 June 2019, and will be able to do the 801 uploads from 6 June 2021. (They allow one month earlier, so effectively 6 May 2021.)

Not sure exactly what happens if the 820 isn't granted within that 2 years though, but some people make an enquiry, and get the 801 granted.

Processing time for subclass 801 Partner (permanent) visa and 100 Partner (permanent) visa is from date of eligibility (2 years after the 820/801 or 309/100 application is lodged) to finalisation.


Thank you, I was wrong about the two years thing but you cannot apply for 801 unless you have the 820.

"In order to be eligible for a subclass 801 visa applicants must be able to satisfy the following criteria:

They must hold a subclass 820 visa;
They must continue to be sponsored;
They must still be the sponsor's partner; and
Two years must have elapsed since the lodgement of the subclass 820 visa."

Two years must have elapsed since the lodgement of the subclass 820 visa. I misunderstood this part, I thought it was like you must have the 820 visa for two years. It makes everything quicker now. I thought I would have to wait like 5 years in total to get the 801.
 

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Thank you, I was wrong about the two years thing but you cannot apply for 801 unless you have the 820.

"In order to be eligible for a subclass 801 visa applicants must be able to satisfy the following criteria:

They must hold a subclass 820 visa;
They must continue to be sponsored;
They must still be the sponsor's partner; and
Two years must have elapsed since the lodgement of the subclass 820 visa."

Two years must have elapsed since the lodgement of the subclass 820 visa. I misunderstood this part, I thought it was like you must have the 820 visa for two years. It makes everything quicker now. I thought I would have to wait like 5 years in total to get the 801.
Some people will say that they get the 801 even without getting the 820, because they think they never got the 820 email.
In practice though, they might get the 820 and 801 grant email at the same time, with the 801 granted a few seconds after the 820 grant.

The "rules" are sometimes broken by immigration themselves.
Some people get the 801 in less than 2 years from the 820 application date.
For example these 801 grants in Oct/Dec 2019.
16.8 months from 820 Application date.
11.6 months from 820 Application date.
18.3 months from 820 Application date.

It does depend on how long their relationship has been proven.
 
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Getting granted 820 while on BVB

Hi everyone!

Maybe someone already asked this question but I couldnt find the answer just now.

We are planning to go back to my home country for 6-9months because of work obligations and were just wondering what would happen if they decide to grant the 820 during that time?

We applied for the 820 on December 2018, and just got granted BVB from Feb 20 2020-March 2021. We called the department but could only get from them "you have to be back in Australia to be granted the 820", they couldn't say anything about how much time they give you to return to Australia. I'm just worried that they might demand that we drop everything and get back to Australia the next day or something, or otherwise forfeit everything. As everyone I suppose, I will have work obligations that I can't just drop, will need some time to make affairs in order.

Does anyone have any experience with this? Thanks!
 

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That's good news.

Some 820's from PMV's have been pretty quick recently. A couple of recent ones have been 5 and 8 days. But with the 820 grant often about 8 or 9 months after the 300 application.

Ours, back in 2016, was an 820 finalised after 3.2 months, from Philippines. But 13.9 months after the PMV Application. The PMV itself took almost 9 months.

When was your 300 granted?
My PMV was granted on May 10 2019 (application lodged 03 November 2018). So we waited just over 6 months.
 

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Hi everyone!

Maybe someone already asked this question but I couldnt find the answer just now.

We are planning to go back to my home country for 6-9months because of work obligations and were just wondering what would happen if they decide to grant the 820 during that time?

We applied for the 820 on December 2018, and just got granted BVB from Feb 20 2020-March 2021. We called the department but could only get from them "you have to be back in Australia to be granted the 820", they couldn't say anything about how much time they give you to return to Australia. I'm just worried that they might demand that we drop everything and get back to Australia the next day or something, or otherwise forfeit everything. As everyone I suppose, I will have work obligations that I can't just drop, will need some time to make affairs in order.

Does anyone have any experience with this? Thanks!
I was in the same situation. My husband and I don't live in AU just yet. We went there for the wedding and lodgement of my 820 visa and had to go back to my home country (as he works there on a contract). The department, having a way of knowing whether I was in the country or not, sent me an email, requesting to inform them when I will be in AU because my 820 grant was pending. Luckily I already had plans to go there right before my PMV expired. I let them know, and less than 48 hours after arrival to AU I was granted my 820.
Don't worry about dropping everything, but you might need to take a vacation when the email comes through.
 

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Luckily I already had plans to go there right before my PMV expired. I let them know, and less than 48 hours after arrival to AU I was granted my 820.
Don't worry about dropping everything, but you might need to take a vacation when the email comes through.
That time line to 820 visa being granted seems short considering you were on a 9 month 300 PMV. Wait times for 820 visas are 24 to 31 months on average.
 

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That time line to 820 visa being granted seems short considering you were on a 9 month 300 PMV. Wait times for 820 visas are 24 to 31 months on average.
The average processing time for the 26,118 subclass 820 visas finalised in the 2018/19 year was 497 calendar days (16.3 months). [Official times: 21-28 (75% were done in under 21 months, 10% over 28? months].

But the 820's from PMV's are often a lot faster than a normal 820.
eg: These ones in the last 3 months:
  • 820 Finalised after 0.2 months, from Finland. (10 months after PMV Application.)
  • 820 Finalised after 2 months, from Iraq. (16.2 months after PMV Application.)
  • 820 Finalised after 0.3 months, from ?. (17.1 months after PMV Application.)
  • 820 Finalised after 2.2 months, from UK. (19.5 months after PMV Application.)
  • 820 Finalised after 1.1 months, from Russia. (15.3 months after PMV Application.)

Your signature says you applied for PR on 3rd Dec 2019. Was that the 820 application?
 

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Your signature says you applied for PR on 3rd Dec 2019. Was that the 820 application?
Yes the 820. The PMV granted 1st May 2019 a little before the above mentioned poster whom were granted PMV on the 10th May 2019.
 

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The average processing time for the 26,118 subclass 820 visas finalised in the 2018/19 year was 497 calendar days (16.3 months). [Official times: 21-28 (75% were done in under 21 months, 10% over 28? months].

But the 820's from PMV's are often a lot faster than a normal 820.
eg: These ones in the last 3 months:
  • 820 Finalised after 0.2 months, from Finland. (10 months after PMV Application.)
  • 820 Finalised after 2 months, from Iraq. (16.2 months after PMV Application.)
  • 820 Finalised after 0.3 months, from ?. (17.1 months after PMV Application.)
  • 820 Finalised after 2.2 months, from UK. (19.5 months after PMV Application.)
  • 820 Finalised after 1.1 months, from Russia. (15.3 months after PMV Application.)

Your signature says you applied for PR on 3rd Dec 2019. Was that the 820 application?
I am sure the PMV application date is not relevant because the couple must marry within the 9 month window before applying for permanent residency. This could be at the beginning or 8 months into the PMV.
If the DIBP take the PMV application date as the start date for permanent residency consideration then that is good.
 

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I am sure the PMV application date is not relevant because the couple must marry within the 9 month window before applying for permanent residency. This could be at the beginning or 8 months into the PMV.
If the DIBP take the PMV application date as the start date for permanent residency consideration then that is good.
It does indicate that the combined 'PMV + 820' processing times seem to be similar, in total, to the normal 820 processing times.

They do appear to do the 820, from the PMV, much faster, as we already spent time waiting for the PMV process.

PMV+820 at between 10 and 19 months total time, (ave 15.6 months from that small list), compared to the average 820 of 16 months.
 
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Hello all, I have just receive a request for AFP check for my partner and in the attached letter it says we must respond to this request within 28 days after receiving this letter. And we should provide in writing through the contact provided "below"

Do we need to actually write to say we have receive her request and AFP is now in process? and the email provided "below" the letter isnt the same as the email which the letter was sent from. Any idea?
 
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