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Dear All,

I am preparing to lodge a GSM 175 visa and would like to ask some questions regarding the requirement on work experience. Engineers Australia assessed my qualifications as a Petroleum Engineer (ASCO 2127-13).

I am currently employed as a Petroleum Engineer at an oil company for 6 months. I performed petroleum engineering works at a research institute in US from 2005-2009. I got my BSc in 2008 and MSc in Petroleum Engineering in 2009. But my job title then was research assistant (which is not on SOL) and I worked 20 hours a week and 40 hours a week in the summers. I was paid for the job. The assignments I performed were exactly what a petroleum engineer (reservoir engineer) does at an oil company.

My question is whether I could be eligible to apply for a 175 visa with the experience I have had from 2005 to as of now. Also could I also claim points for "specific work experience"?

Without 10 points from "Specific work experience", I am 5 points short to meet the pass mark 120 for Skilled Independent 125.

Would you also suggest me get nominated by the State and apply for a 126 instead of being put into the pool for 2 years?

I would greatly appreciate your advice.
 

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Dear All,

I am preparing to lodge a GSM 175 visa and would like to ask some questions regarding the requirement on work experience. Engineers Australia assessed my qualifications as a Petroleum Engineer (ASCO 2127-13).

I am currently employed as a Petroleum Engineer at an oil company for 6 months. I performed petroleum engineering works at a research institute in US from 2005-2009. I got my BSc in 2008 and MSc in Petroleum Engineering in 2009. But my job title then was research assistant (which is not on SOL) and I worked 20 hours a week and 40 hours a week in the summers. I was paid for the job. The assignments I performed were exactly what a petroleum engineer (reservoir engineer) does at an oil company.

My question is whether I could be eligible to apply for a 175 visa with the experience I have had from 2005 to as of now. Also could I also claim points for "specific work experience"?

Without 10 points from "Specific work experience", I am 5 points short to meet the pass mark 120 for Skilled Independent 125.

Would you also suggest me get nominated by the State and apply for a 126 instead of being put into the pool for 2 years?

I would greatly appreciate your advice.
I suggest you have a good read under the eligibility experience links of the information expected to be provided in an application and experience is usually only counted from post graduation and what qualification your assessment was based on will determine your ammount of experience you can claim without risk of rejection.
Probably a good idea to not just look at state sponsorship but if the PE occupation is on State Migration Plans [ still being developed ] , that'll give you a higher priority application.
You'll find priority details in a link near top of What's New via. Professionals and other Skilled Migrants - Workers - Visas & Immigration
 

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Hi Wanderer,

I appreciate you took time to reply my message here. I guess the best thing for me to do now is wait until the occupation list is announced by State. Yes, if PE is on the list, I understand that I will be given a 2nd priority in processing.

Say if I still wanted to go ahead and apply for 125 and not meet 120 pass mark, I will be in the pool. Will I be able to switch 125 to 126 at that point without paying for the application fees again?

Again, thanks in advance.
 

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Hi Wanderer,

I appreciate you took time to reply my message here. I guess the best thing for me to do now is wait until the occupation list is announced by State. Yes, if PE is on the list, I understand that I will be given a 2nd priority in processing.

Say if I still wanted to go ahead and apply for 125 and not meet 120 pass mark, I will be in the pool. Will I be able to switch 125 to 126 at that point without paying for the application fees again?

Again, thanks in advance.
Your 7s are coming out as 2s for some reason or other but yes, if you are able to apply for a sponsorship, your 175 is then considered as a 176.
 

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Your 7s are coming out as 2s for some reason or other but yes, if you are able to apply for a sponsorship, your 175 is then considered as a 176.
Hi Wanderer,

Thanks for your reply. The assessment letter from Engineers Australia states that my qualification achieved in 2008 was assessed and meets the current requirement of standing as a petroleum engineer in Australia. I got a BSc in 2008 so I guess the experience will only be counted from 2008 to now.

I worked part-time during my MSc program while working full-time in summers in a research project in which I had to use PE skills, I wonder why the experience I gained during MSc can't be counted because there is no occupation as a Research Petroleum Engineer on the SOL. My job title was Research Assistant.

Could you explain that to me? I will have to wait to submit a 175 until February 2011 and that's exactly a year since I was hired as a PE at the current company to meet the required 12 months of SOL work.

Or should I just wait? I am afraid immigration regulations are likely to change again from time to time. I rather not wait if it is possible.

Thanks again.
 

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Hi Wanderer,

Thanks for your reply. The assessment letter from Engineers Australia states that my qualification achieved in 2008 was assessed and meets the current requirement of standing as a petroleum engineer in Australia. I got a BSc in 2008 so I guess the experience will only be counted from 2008 to now.

I worked part-time during my MSc program while working full-time in summers in a research project in which I had to use PE skills, I wonder why the experience I gained during MSc can't be counted because there is no occupation as a Research Petroleum Engineer on the SOL. My job title was Research Assistant.

Could you explain that to me? I will have to wait to submit a 175 until February 2011 and that's exactly a year since I was hired as a PE at the current company to meet the required 12 months of SOL work.

Or should I just wait? I am afraid immigration regulations are likely to change again from time to time. I rather not wait if it is possible.

Thanks again.
I doubt the requirement for 12 months work in previous two years will be changed for skilled visa requirements and if you have a look at the experience requirements you'll see that 20 hours/week is considered the minimum and so from that point of view it'll be up to you to consider if your work whilst doing the MSc can be sufficiently documented to be considered as experience for a Petroleum Engineer.
The other quicker way you may want to consider is seeing if there are any companies in Australia that are prepared to do an employer sponsorship which can be initially for temporary residency and then subsequently permanent residency.
Employer Sponsored Workers - Workers - Visas & Immigration and there's nothing to stop you from applying for an independent visa whilst on a sponsored one.
 

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Hi Wanderer,

Thank you again for your input.

Do you know if PE was on the SMP list of many states previously? It is on SOL at this moment. Perhaps, do you know if PE is in shortage in AU at all?

I am looking at WA as it seems to me that many major oil companies are located around Perth.

Meanwhile, I will try seeking companies who would want to sponsor me.
 

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Hi Wanderer,

Thank you again for your input.

Do you know if PE was on the SMP list of many states previously? It is on SOL at this moment. Perhaps, do you know if PE is in shortage in AU at all?

I am looking at WA as it seems to me that many major oil companies are located around Perth.

Meanwhile, I will try seeking companies who would want to sponsor me.
There have been no SMPs previously, they being a new concept introduced by Immi but PEs may have been on some state sponsorship lists.
You could see if they are still able to be checked via the 176 eligibility section links.
Not sure on demand as there seems considerable international involvement in the industry, though there always seems to be some exploratory and development work going on in WA recently.
 

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There have been no SMPs previously, they being a new concept introduced by Immi but PEs may have been on some state sponsorship lists.
You could see if they are still able to be checked via the 176 eligibility section links.
Not sure on demand as there seems considerable international involvement in the industry, though there always seems to be some exploratory and development work going on in WA recently.
Hi Wanderer,

I will have been able to claim 12 months experience in February, 2011 as a petroleum engineer. But my assessment was done in June, 2010. This is what was said in the assessment outcome letter.

"... pleased to advise that your qualification awarded in 2008 meets the current academic requirement for standing as a Professional Engineer in Australia."

And "... occupational classification in your case for migration purposes is Petroleum Engineer ASCO 2127-13."

For me to be able to claim 12 months "experience", will I need another assessment done for the work I have done at my company?

Thanks in advance again.
 

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With the changes that have been introduced you'll need to have an assessment with an ANZSCO code as against the ASCO one for an occupation on the new SOL
Details under Skilled Occupation Lists (Formerly Known as Form 1121i)
I'm not aware of what if anything the IEA are doing for transitioning between the two codes and you ought to check their web site and/or contact them.
Hello Wanderer,

I found this on IEA's website. I am going to paste it here and it maybe useful for others too.

"What does this mean for people applying for a Migration Skills Assessment by Engineers Australia?"

1. Up to and including 30 June 2010, assessment outcome letters will be issued in ASCO codes only
2. From and including 1 July 2010, assessment outcome letters will be issued in ANZSCO codes only ... this will also apply to any reissued outcomes after that date

Please note - For applicants who hold, or are about to hold, an assessment outcome letter with an ASCO code issued by this office prior to 1 July 2010, and who lodge an application to DIAC within 12 months of the date of this letter:

The ASCO based skills assessment will remain valid - please check the specific schedule(s) from the new SOL/ENSOL that applies to your individual situation.

Since mine was issued in June, 2010, I still have a year to apply a skilled visa from the date with my assessment letter with an ASCO code.
 
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