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Hi all, I hope that someone here can answer my questions, it's a bit complicated...

I'm currently applying for a spouse visa, my husband is a citizen, we live in Germany. If the spouse visa is approved (lets hope so), I need to make an initial entry before November 27th, which is fine with me.

Now, we are also having a baby in late August, which we intend to bring as well to introduce to the family. The baby will be eligible for citizenship. From what I have heard, we first have to apply for baby's citizenhip in London. Once this is approved, one of us will have to go to Berlin to apply for baby's passport.

My question is, can this be done within 3 months, so that the baby can travel as a citizen? If not, could I apply for an ETA for the baby while the application is being processed? (note that I will have PR, so the baby will be the only family member travelling on a visa)? Unfortunately the date is not flexible due to the initial entry, and as a mother I wouldn't want to leave a 3-month-old infant at home.

As there are many aussies in Germany, I'm sure someone must have applied for their children's citizenship in London, so I hope that someone can help me out here :)
 

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Have you checked with the Germany embassy re getting the citizenship and passport issued there?
Though I've known of both being done in England only because that is where someone was residing, less than a couple of weeks for each step was all that was required and I would have thought it would have been possible to do both at the nearest embassy or the one that you would use for your visa.
If it has to be done in London, allow an extra week for each step re postage and all ought to be possible within a couple of months.
And yes, an Australian citizen legally is supposed to enter on an Australian passport or alternately if it is a german or other European country passport you also get for the baby, you may get away with an eVisa or if your PR visa is not granted by the time of birth, see about getting the baby on your PR though they may even advise that baby will be an Australian citizen and that'll be the best path to take.
 

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Hi Wanderer, thanks a lot for your quick reply. No unfortunately the citizenship application will have to be processed in London, whilst the passport will have to be processed in Berlin, no exceptions (according to the person on the phone). I will also have to apply for the Baby's passport in person, which will involve a 7-hour-trip :(

Now I am really interested whether the Baby is considered a citizen even if we haven't applied for citizenship in London yet. Is the grant of citizenship a real grant, or is it just the aknowledgement of citizehship that already exists (makes sense?). I asked the peron on the phone from the embassy, they coudln't answer the question and also said it didn't matter.

Well it matters to me beause if the baby is not a citizen, I could just defer the application and get an ETA.
 

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The baby is a citizen by virtue of one parent being Australian but because the birth does not occur in Australia is why you have to go through a registration process, a conferring of citizenship is the correct terminology whereas people who make application for it through residency and a test have it granted and can attend an awarding ceremony.

That's a bit inconsiderate making you travel all the way to London and seeing as you'll need a passport to get bub a visa I'd go with a German one and use the eVisa and then if you felt inclined you could look at getting the citizenship and passport whilst in Australia and that''ll save you the extra travelling.

On the travelling if you do not mind a bit of extra flying and using a low cost flight between Germany and England, AirAsia might save you quite a few $$$ - Global Low Cost Carrier - Big Little Flight Sales
 
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