[amingrg]

Hello guys,

So, i'm in a dilemma, and I'm hoping I can get some answers.

I'm hoping to try for a student visa in Aus, but here is a thing:

I have few immigration history.

In 2009, I applied for canada where I was rejected.

And recently in 2017, I was rejected for U.K visa as well.

So, few say that having those two countries will pretty much guarantee that I will be rejected in Australia as well.

what do you suggest?

P.S: Both the rejections have nothing to do with false documents or anything.

 

[ampk]

Both will have been rejected for something!

You will need to declare them in your application and address the reasons they were refused.

 

[JandE]

The type of visas you applied for, in the UK and Canada, and the reasons for rejection might have some bearing on the answer to your question.

 

[amingrg]

And here is that major problem,

I have the whole rejection paper for UK thats says translation document missing.

But since for Canada it was of 2009, I cant remember the rejection reason in a whole. But it was something to do with study plan not clear.

So how do i counter it? Has someone been in this scenario? Or shall i give up on applying to AUS

 

[ampk]

Australia will require translated documents too, so you will need to find out everything that is required to be done to submit a valid application. I can assure you if you don't submit a valid application it can not be approved, it is not up to them to request anything from you.

Australia I am sure will also require you to have a realistic study plan and be a Genuine Temporary Entrant.

Not trying to criticise you by your passed applications seem to be below standard, it might be time to get the help of a Registered Migration Agent this time around.

 

[amingrg]

Im sure you aren’t trying to criticize. But what im trying to ask is - does the student visa rejection of canada and UK affect in anyway with Australia?

 

[ampk]

Yes, they will want to know why you were rejected from a like type country.

The onus is on you to explain why you should now be issued a visa when other countries refused you.

If you adequately address the concerns/reasons that Canada und the UK had then you could be granted a visa. If you don't it is highly likely that the Case Officer will side with the UK and Canadian decisions.

So yes any rejection has an affect on any Australian visa in the fact that the look at why you were rejected. From what you have stated, it seems the "affect" could be nill.

 

[amingrg]

So in your opinion i should go for the visa application?

I actually don’t know clearly about canada rejection. So can i write something like i don’t have clear knowledge as it was way back. But here is my passport number and application number so you can clarify the rejection

 

[JandE]

So in your opinion i should go for the visa application?

I actually don't know clearly about canada rejection. So can i write something like i don't have clear knowledge as it was way back. But here is my passport number and application number so you can clarify the rejection

I am not one to often say that people need to use an immigration agent, but I think you might need to seriously consider using one.

Your last sentence above would probably (almost certainly) get you another rejection.

 

[ampk]

I agree with JandE,

I think a RMA would require exact knowledge of both rejections and if you don't have the rejection letters or emails then they would I assume request them via freedom of information or other means.

It is not the Case Officers job to research your back ground, it is up to you to supply it for them.

 

[amingrg]

I did looked for answers with an agent but all he had to say was lets not mention your canada rejection as it was in your old passport and in 2009 when it didnt had biometria.. and im pretty sure i dont want to do that

 

[JandE]

I did looked for answers with an agent but all he had to say was lets not mention your canada rejection as it was in your old passport and in 2009 when it didnt had biometria.. and im pretty sure i dont want to do that

Was it a MARA migration agent?

I suggest maybe trying one listed here: http://www.australiaforum.com/visas-immigration/252474-registered-migration-agents.html

 

[amingrg]

The link goes to a different page than page list of registered agents.

What if I apply to Aus after my MBA here. It will be 2020 by then. Then probably i dont have to show my rejection pf 2009?

 

[CCMS]

The link goes to a different page than page list of registered agents.

What if I apply to Aus after my MBA here. It will be 2020 by then. Then probably i dont have to show my rejection pf 2009?

If you keep asking long enough, someone may eventually tell you what you want to hear, rather than what you need to know.

Full disclosure of your entire visa history is required. Simple as that.

 

[ampk]

If you keep asking long enough, someone may eventually tell you what you want to hear, rather than what you need to know.

Full disclosure of your entire visa history is required. Simple as that.

Starting to feel like a dentist.

You in hot or cold weather now?

 

[amingrg]

If you keep asking long enough, someone may eventually tell you what you want to hear, rather than what you need to know.

Full disclosure of your entire visa history is required. Simple as that.

That's what I want to know Nick. It is possible not to know the details isn't it. I mean it was like a decade back. So, what can be alternatives for that?Just want to know that.

 

[ampk]

That's what I want to know Nick. It is possible not to know the details isn't it. I mean it was like a decade back. So, what can be alternatives for that?Just want to know that.

I answered that!

if you don't have the rejection letters or emails then they would I assume request them via freedom of information or other means.

 

[CCMS]

That's what I want to know Nick. It is possible not to know the details isn't it. I mean it was like a decade back. So, what can be alternatives for that?Just want to know that.

You could try and retrieve the details from Canadian Immigration to start with. If you can't, you should make a serious effort at writing a detailed statement about it rather than trying to find a way to avoid the issue.

That's my advice, but of course you can do as you please and listen to dodgy "agents" ,who tell you to lie about it ,instead.

 

[CCMS]

Starting to feel like a dentist.

You in hot or cold weather now?

Back in paradise...

 

[amingrg]

You could try and retrieve the details from Canadian Immigration to start with. If you can't, you should make a serious effort at writing a detailed statement about it rather than trying to find a way to avoid the issue.

That's my advice, but of course you can do as you please and listen to dodgy "agents" who tell you to lie about it instead.

That's what I said Nick. I certainly don't want to fall for the agents who says one should hide the details. That's why i'm here for suggestion from the real people who know stuff, right?

So, will that be okay if I elaborate the details on why i don't have the rejection papers which i lost it in 2009.