[Ghost]

My Vietnamese girlfriend had her first Tourist Visa to Australia approved (600) 12 months’ multiple entry with 3 month MAX stays in 2017, the VISA is due to expire in November (2018)

She has visited Australia twice in these periods and this will be her third trip:
December – January 2018 / (6 weeks)
May 2018 – August 2018 (3 months)
October – 2nd January (proposed)

She does not have the (No Further Stay condition imposed) and has a 3-month max Study period.

She is returning to Australia on the 14th of October and we intend to extend her Visa for 3 months so we can enjoy Christmas together and New years this year and then leave for a holiday to Thailand.

A couple of questions:

she will be extending from within Australia does she have to upload the exact documentation as she did for the first VISA? Or are these documents kept on her record?

She is no longer employed in her role in Vietnam but I have means to cover all expenses for her and she can show evidence of funds for her stay, will this be re-assessed in the extension application?

We provided a significant amount of documents for her first visa, (Invitation letter, explanation letter) will these be required for the extension if she is already in the country?

If required I could enrol her in an English school in Australia to strengthen her application for extension, but I wonder if this will be necessary under the circumstances

Thank you in advance for helping me here

 

[Mania]

If the visas entry period doesn't expire until November then the entry in October will allow her to stay for 3 months?

 

[Ghost]

If the visas entry period doesn't expire until November then the entry in October will allow her to stay for 3 months?

Visa is meant to expire on the 28th November, she will be coming back to Australia on the 14th of October and we would like her to stay until early January.

 

[Mania]

Can you reread your visa letter and confirm that its the entry facility thats expiring in November.

You should be able to enter on 14 October and have a 3 month validity period that would expire 13 Jan.

 

[Mania]

Duplicate post

 

[Ghost]

Can you reread your visa letter and confirm that its the entry facility thats expiring in November.

You should be able to enter on 14 October and have a 3 month validity period that would expire 13 Jan.

Visa Grant Date: 28th November 2017
Stay For/ Until: 3 month(s)
Entries: Multiple
Last date to Arrive: 28th November 2018

If you are implying that she can stay until the 14th of January on her existing visa that is wonderful news, and thank you for your advice Mania

 

[Mania]

Visa Grant Date: 28th November 2017
Stay For/ Until: 3 month(s)
Entries: Multiple
Last date to Arrive: 28th November 2018

If you are implying that she can stay until the 14th of January on her existing visa that is wonderful news, and thank you for your advice Mania

She can arrive up to 28 November and stay for 3 months from there.

So yes your arrival date of 14 october will give 3 months from then.

*edit - i believe the leaving date would be 13 jan not 14 Jan - would certainly pay to check that.

 

[Mia Had]

My Vietnamese girlfriend had her first Tourist Visa to Australia approved (600) 12 months' multiple entry with 3 month MAX stays in 2017, the VISA is due to expire in November (2018)

She has visited Australia twice in these periods and this will be her third trip:
December - January 2018 / (6 weeks)
May 2018 - August 2018 (3 months)
October - 2nd January (proposed)

She does not have the (No Further Stay condition imposed) and has a 3-month max Study period.

She is returning to Australia on the 14th of October and we intend to extend her Visa for 3 months so we can enjoy Christmas together and New years this year and then leave for a holiday to Thailand.

A couple of questions:

she will be extending from within Australia does she have to upload the exact documentation as she did for the first VISA? Or are these documents kept on her record?

She is no longer employed in her role in Vietnam but I have means to cover all expenses for her and she can show evidence of funds for her stay, will this be re-assessed in the extension application?

We provided a significant amount of documents for her first visa, (Invitation letter, explanation letter) will these be required for the extension if she is already in the country?

If required I could enrol her in an English school in Australia to strengthen her application for extension, but I wonder if this will be necessary under the circumstances

Thank you in advance for helping me here

Hello I had extend my visa last december and in my case they doesn't asked for any documents at first. Good thing they will give you a bridging visa which is 35 days while you're visa application has been processed. After a week they emailed me and asked for a new invite letter from my sponsor. What I did is I upload a new set of documents like invite letter from my sponsor, payslips and also I include a cover letter why I am extending. I planned to do a short course study and I also include some conservations/emails from the school I have enquired, and my bank certificate. They didnt asked for medical i guess it depends on the case officer I reckon.

Goodluck

 

[SoItGoes]

She will be good to enter OZ any day before 28/11/2028 then stay less than 90 days.

You have a good one mate.

Can you reread your visa letter and confirm that its the entry facility thats expiring in November.

You should be able to enter on 14 October and have a 3 month validity period that would expire 13 Jan.

Visa Grant Date: 28th November 2017
Stay For/ Until: 3 month(s)
Entries: Multiple
Last date to Arrive: 28th November 2018

If you are implying that she can stay until the 14th of January on her existing visa that is wonderful news, and thank you for your advice Mania

 

[ampk]

She will be good to enter OZ any day before 28/11/2028 then stay less than 90 days.

You have a good one mate.

Yes what Mania has said is correct.

Enter before 28/11/18 (Not 2028) and you can still stay the full 90 days, even if the visa expires.

We have done exactly that.

 

[minh_thanhtam]

Hi Ghost, i am having the same issue as you faced in the past when you applied visitor visa subclass 600 for your girlfriend
(from your previous thread 249578-urgent-subclass-600-tourist-visa-vietnamese-girlfriend).

We applied visa ourselves without using any agents a month ago. Her visa got refused as the same reasons you girlfriend had. I've realised that your girlfriend after that had got a visitor visa subclass 600. Could you please share your experiences how you passed when you reapplied the visitor visa? Any help from you will be very helpful for us. Thank you so much.

Cheers,
Minh

 

[konji__]

Hi Ghost, i am having the same issue as you faced in the past when you applied visitor visa subclass 600 for your girlfriend
(from your previous thread 249578-urgent-subclass-600-tourist-visa-vietnamese-girlfriend).

We applied visa ourselves without using any agents a month ago. Her visa got refused as the same reasons you girlfriend had. I've realised that your girlfriend after that had got a visitor visa subclass 600. Could you please share your experiences how you passed when you reapplied the visitor visa? Any help from you will be very helpful for us. Thank you so much.

Cheers,
Minh

Want to share more details?
what's the reason for refusal?
what evidence did you provide?

 

[minh_thanhtam]

Want to share more details?
what's the reason for refusal?
what evidence did you provide?

Hi konji__,

My girlfriend's Visa was declined due to her trip to Australia being deemed 'non genuine'.

I am a 32-year-old Australian Citizen and have personal finances in Australia (properties and assets) and had provided her Invitation Letter and 3 of my latest payslips.

Some background to our relationship; we have been in a relationship for the past 8 months, we had been friends for a while (more than 2 years) before been in relationship. I have previously travelled to Vietnam to see her twice this year.
She's based in Binh Phuoc (close to Ho Chi Minh city) and she has worked for a state - owned enterprise in Ho Chi Minh city for almost 2 years. She has a bank saving passbook at least $10k AUD, does not own any property. She also has a a law bachelor degree in VN.

We provided:
- Form 1419
- Passport photo 4x6
- The certified copy of her Vietnamese passport
- The certified copy of her birth certificate
- The certified copy of her national identity card
- Her 3 most payslips (about 400 AUD per month)
- Letter from bank to clarify she has more than $10K AUD in her bank saving passbook
- Company contract / Labour contract
- Application for leave for 3 weeks from 22.12.2018 - 12.01.2019 with the signature of her General Director of the Company
- My invitation letter
- My 3 latest payslips
- Photo of my driver licence
- Photo of my Australian Passport
- 2 photos of us together

Please see the decision file below from the Department of Home Affairs.

Visa Class: VISITOR (Class FA) VISITOR (Subclass 600)
Visa Type Temporary
Application Lodgement Date 12 October 2018

Legislative Framework
Under migration law, an application is made for a class of visa and the applicant's application must be considered against the criteria for all sub-classes within that visa sub-class.

The applicant's application has been considered against the criteria for the following subclasses within the VISITOR visa class.
600 - VISITOR

Under migration law, a visa cannot be granted unless the applicant meets the legal requirements that are specified in the Act and the Regulations. The applicant did not meet the legal requirement in clause 600.211 in Schedule 2 of the Migration Regulations on the date I made my decision.

Clause 600.211 states that:

The applicant genuinely intends to stay temporarily in Australia for the purpose for which the visa is granted, having regards to:
whether the applicant has complied substantially with the conditions to which the last substantive visa, or any subsequent bridging visa, held by the applicant was subject;
and whether the applicant intends to comply with the conditions to which the Subclass 600 visa would be subject; and any other relevant matter.

My decision is based on the following factors
After carefully considering the information, that the applicant has provided as evidence of their purpose in visiting Australia, I am not satisfied that the applicant genuinely intend to visit Australia temporarily for the purpose for which the visa would be granted.

I note that the applicant has indicated that they will be visiting an Australian citizen or permanent resident friend or relative. This office considers carefully the support from Australians, particularly if there is a close family or personal link. While the offer of support, including evidence of the nature and duration of relationship, has been taken into account, it is only one factor in considering if an applicant intends a genuine visit. Overall, for a Visitor visa it is the circumstances of the applicant themselves, above all, which must be considered.

In assessing whether or not the applicant intends a genuine visit,

I have considered the employment or business ownership claims that the applicant made in their application, including any relevant supporting documentation and the applicant's economic circumstances in Vietnam relative to their potential economic circumstances in Australia.

I therefore find that the applicant does not satisfy the requirements of clause 600.211 in Schedule 2 of the Regulations. As the applicant does not satisfy clause 600.211, I have not assessed the applicant's application against the remaining criteria for this subclass of visa.

Decision
As the applicant does not meet the requirements of clause 600.211 in Schedule 2 of the Regulations, I find that the applicant does not meet the criteria for the grant of a VISITOR (Class FA) (Subclass 600) visa.

Therefore, I refuse the applicant's application for a VISITOR (Class FA) VISITOR (Subclass 600) visa.
26 October 2018

Thanks.