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As the title says im ready to leave this country not because of the people there ok its the cost of living here and the expense you have to pay through your back teeth every single day here, god forbid a family come over and only one of you are working, you just wouldn't survive.

As a typical women moving to a new house you need to stock up on the food cupboards;
Here you need to spend well over 1,000 dollars and that's going careful on a first shop , I cannot wrap my head around the cost of things example a jar of Nescafé coffee gold blend what one would pay 3.34for in the UK is 19 dollars here a bottle of Dettol is 16 dollars the same bottle is 2 pounds, now I know the wages are different here there allot more but remember something here if a person is getting lets say an average wage here is 600 dollars a week, a family of 2 or 3 cannot afford to live they have the rent to pay which is around 300 dollars a week which leaves them 300 dollars they have food to buy and bills to pay ( which here if you don't pay them within a few days of getting the bill your in shit, they don't mess around here) bills I say is about 50 dollars a week for gas, water and electricity leaves 250 dollars, petrol in the car if you have one or bus fares another 50 dollars a week depending on how often you use the car or transport. leaves you with 200 dollars a week if you smoke or drink then your screwed you will be in the red because a bottle of good wine is anywhere from tramp fuel 8 dollars to decent wine 20 dollars a bottle, **** are 27 dollars a packet lets say you have 3 packets a week that's already 90 dollars which leaves you 100 dollars for food a week, believe me guys its so expensive here, its a beautiful country and the people are good but don't be fooled into thinking that life here is a bed of roses because its not, I live with a very good bank balance but even I cannot wrap my head around the prices of things here,.
It would be interesting to find other peoples views on the cost of things in comparison. I know other countries are bad for crime ect but Australia is just as bad believe me, the people here have the same problems as the rest of Europe and the Uk, just as much and just as bad.
 

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Sorry to hear that you are contemplating moving back home Louise as I know you have waited a long time and worked very hard to get into Australia. I read your comments with interest and some of the prices you mentioned do seem particularly high when compared to the likes of the UK. I hope everything works out for you as I sense great frustration and disappointment in your post.

Is there anything we can do to help?
 

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hello ed
Just so many expats at the moment complaining there having to return back to there own countries because they cannot afford to continue living here, I just feel sorry for them, I understand where there coming from, I was so disappointed with the whole system here, oh I love the country and the people don't get me wrong at all I just cannot believe how the Australians have to pay out so much for day to day things, and I found it hard coming from both the UK and Malta and experiencing a good standard of living in both countries. I just feel that the Australians and the expats are paying through there hind teeth here and things are on the increase each and every day.
Maybe you should start a thread on comparisons from one country to another would be interesting to see lol. Seriously though the price of things here has really shocked me and I feel sorry for those like me and you who work hard at obtaining a visa to find they cannot afford to live here after a few months. Im feeling a little home sick and I believe that's playing parallel to mixed emotions at the moment lol.
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Hi Louise

As it happens we are looking at a price comparison section/system for the future which would give people a price comparison between lots of everyday items and services. I will keep you up to date with developments.

If there is anything I can do to help you, just ask.

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Thanks Mark
I will certainly do a price compare with Australia and UK and Europe if you need help.
 

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I'm so sorry you're so homesick and unhappy, Louise. *hugs*

Any price comparison would need to of course include average wage comparisons, too, to present a full picture.

I think the reason everything is so expensive there (just my own theory) is the cost of getting it there. Think about it. Mailing a package between Europe and the US? Affordable. Mailing a package between the US and Oz? Astronomical. Regardless of how products are shipped to Australia, it would be my guess that the companies shipping there pay way more to get them there than they do to get them to the UK. Consequently, prices are much higher.

I'm sure there are many other factors, too, but I think this is at least part of it.
 

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Hi CG thanks for the hugs xx
I totally understand the shipment of things being sent over to Australia but even the local produce is astronomical, the local spud shed for example sells a small half rotten avocado at 4 dollars for 1 is he taking the P. out of people, lemons locally grown 19 dollars a kilo. These are locally produced goods, or lets take meat from W/A the best beef ( so they call it ) 80 dollars a kilo, I honestly thought a bunch of TV cameras were going to jump out on me and tell me I had taken part in practical joke when I saw these prices. I suppose the local people have got used and accept the prices because they don't know any better, but for me a foreigner I just cannot grasp the reason behind it. I did some research with a friend of mine in Malta he works for the customs department and he has informed me that Malta actually pay more than the Australians do, plus Australia have a better price on products especially food products because they buy them in bulk whereas Malta buy in small amounts, obviously UK don't have the import duty on most goods. Do the rich want to get richer here in Australia by making a huge profit and the consumer are suffering or is it a genuine case of things being expensive in Australia. Either way I just feel so sad at the moment even more so because I see so many people waiting for there visa,s and here I am moaning about being here after only 7 weeks.
 

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I think it really depends where you buy from. When you buy from Coles/Wollies you pay the 80-120% markup of these chains.

I'm often shopping at local markets/ farm markets and pay on average half price of Coles for fresher produce. Example a kg of lemon from farmers market is $4. While at Coles each lemon is 50c, that's $9 per kg!! And don't get me started on fish! A kg of Salmon is $24 in Coles while it is just $13 from fish market.

You can save heaps if you shop at Aldi as well. Detol is your example. Same bottle of Aldi product is just $3.49 (checked today :))

You will need to make a conscious choice of moving away from branded and shopping around. You will usually get same or better quality for somewhere around half price. Markets differ, in Australian market, often house brands are produced by same companies that produce branded. You just not paying the brand margin when you get house product/brand.

I'm hardly spending here more than when I was in UK. Gas/ Electricity excluded.

This is not an immigration advice
 
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I recently converted to shopping at Aldi and my grocery bill halved, example bacon $5 a kilo versus woolworths $11 a kilo. Ham for a prepack of 4 is only $5 and at woolworths a 1 pack is $3.28. I have always been a fan of markets to buy fresh fruit and vegetables better product at half the cost.
If you are a family there is also benefits from centrelink eg: birth of first child will get you $5,000 to assist you in setting up. Then as you say low income earner $600 will get a higher fortnightly payment (don't know what they call it these days) for having kids and a higher subsidy for child care from Centrelink. For low income earners there is rental support, cheap medicines. Australia does also provide a lot of drugs (medicines) at a reduced cost to all it's residents. Free health care and education for children. It is cheaper for me to go to a doctor and buy my medication in australia than in the Philippines. Though in the Philippines i can buy a beer (stubbie) for 50 cents where here it is $2.50, so in short the essentials in Australia are cheaper than the luxuries. Public housing is also available for low income earners each state is different in regards to eligibility.
My 21 year old daughter rents a house works part time as a nurse's aide and has a uni scholarship of $23,000 per year and she has recently just paid cash for a second hand car and like all young people she goes to concerts and nights out with her friends. So maybe it is more about lifestyle than cost of living? I am not trying to beat you up, rather i am trying to show you the other side. Yes i have previously lived overseas and after a year of living in Korea in a small town where it was rare to find another english speaker, i understand the homesickness thing. So i am sad that you feel this way. Though give it 12 months and see how you feel at the end of that. Wish you well
 

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I personally don't find the cost of living that bad at all.

If anything I have more spare money to enjoy life and do a lot of things since I've been living her. I was in france and Ireland before, and I'm vegan + gluten intolerant. I find it a lot easier to find products that suit my diet requirements and they are a lot cheaper than they would be in France or Ireland for instance.

My wages are a lot higher than in Europe, my life is a lot better in general.

i couldn't think of going back to Europe anytime soon to live there.

I think you need to put things into perspective. If you're a married couple and are both working, you'll have a lot more disposable income.

My husband and I probably spend about $150 on groceries/week, our rent is $420 and we live close to a train station, we have 2 cats, spend a lot of time doing activities such as dancing, go out every couple of weeks. We don't drink much and don't smoke, but I don't think this is excessive.

It's Sydney, I wasn't expecting it to be cheap, but it is a lot easier to get by than in a lot of other countries as far as I'm concerned.

really sorry yo're not enjoying the Aussie lifestyle.

Also the prices you have mentioned on your first post are nothing like the prices I have personally seen at shops. Not sure where you went but avoid that place!
 

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I'm about to move to Melbourne in July myself and i already in my mind work out how to save on weekly groceries etc so i can save more money.
This could be a good thread to share with the forum where to shop for groceries with better prices in say Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Perth etc. I know in Australia there isnt anything like coupons like in the US, but i was hoping that anyone here would know and share tips and tricks to better shop in Australia.
The Aldi tip is great will definitely check that one out, I think ppl are more focused on the big brand like Woolworths and Coles, so its good to know that there are options.
Does any one know if theres a shop where we can buy bulk for less price in Melbourne?
Hopefully we can help each other out and not give up just yet. Hang in there.
 

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I don't think we have an aldi in perth, I will have to check. The gas and electricity here is far cheaper im not saying it wasn't, but I don't how anyone coming from UK can say its cheaper here because it isn't, you have the one pound shops that sell everything from meats to gardening, you have Primemark which is a clothing shop also known as pennies in Ireland, its so cheap for good clothes. Even the most expensive clothe shops are much cheaper lol. I have always ( no im not blowing my head up here) bought from next or Italian shops and I still find the clothing here expensive for good clothes.
I bought a pair of Nike trainers from Malta they cost me 70 euros, which is 100 dollars here today I saw them in a sports shop nothing special they were marked up at 280 dollars !!!! I wear converse trainers/shoes the most I pay is about 100 euros here there marked up at well over 400 dollars. Anyhow that's my little continuation of my rant lol. im going to check out if there is an Aldi here in Perth, please please let it be lol.
 

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I don't think we have an aldi in perth, I will have to check. The gas and electricity here is far cheaper im not saying it wasn't, but I don't how anyone coming from UK can say its cheaper here because it isn't, you have the one pound shops that sell everything from meats to gardening, you have Primemark which is a clothing shop also known as pennies in Ireland, its so cheap for good clothes. Even the most expensive clothe shops are much cheaper lol. I have always ( no im not blowing my head up here) bought from next or Italian shops and I still find the clothing here expensive for good clothes.
I bought a pair of Nike trainers from Malta they cost me 70 euros, which is 100 dollars here today I saw them in a sports shop nothing special they were marked up at 280 dollars !!!! I wear converse trainers/shoes the most I pay is about 100 euros here there marked up at well over 400 dollars. Anyhow that's my little continuation of my rant lol. im going to check out if there is an Aldi here in Perth, please please let it be lol.
You have the pound shops in the UK yes, but they don't necessarily sell good quality goods. I never used to go to these shops. As far as clothing go you can go to target or Big W.
Again it all goes down to where Australia is located too. Don't forget we're in the middle of the ocean. That being said, I always buy clothing online and have always done so ever since I discovered online shopping.
Converse shoes are $80 here not $400. I'm not sure which shops you're going to but I have never seen the prices you're mentioning anywhere.
I think your frustration with this country is fairly clear, but I don't think we're seeing the price difference you seem to have noticed anywhere else.
 

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Hi louiseb.

I'm so sorry to see that you're struggling with your new life in Australia! :( As I can tell you've only been for nearly 2 months though, so hopefully time will help! :)

There's no Aldi in Perth yet, unfortunately. But they are expanding and they announced that they will expand to Perth earlier this year... but I guess it will still take a while to get all of that running... :/ But I've heard of something called Spud Shed in Perth? Have you been to that? A quick Google search brought me this link Spudshed Fresh Food Market and I know it's supposed to be cheaper than Coles and Woolies etc. Also, you help local growers :) Might be worth checking out :)

Regarding the price of things - I was also shocked at the price of SHOES when I got to Australia (although I've never seen converse shoes at that price). It took me a while, but eventually I managed to find a chain that sold not only really cheap, but also good quality, beautiful shoes. My point being - we are at the other side of the planet, after all, on an island. Things will necessarily be different and I think mostly it's just a matter of taking your time and exploring your new city - working out where the cheap stuff is, what's less expensive and what you'll just have to live with. A lot like we've all done in our home countries, really, only there we know so WELL how all of that works because we've spent our entire lives there (well, most of us, anyway).

I really hope things get better for you, and send you my best wishes! :)
 
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This has really made me question immigrating! Everyone I know who has gone over on a working holiday visa has had the time of their lives but I guess I never thought about the cost! :/
 

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Hi IrishNicole

There are many things to consider when looking to move overseas and it is not a bad thing to see both sides of the coin - the pros and the cons.

The reality is that we are all different, have different financial situations and different aims and ambitions. You will find some very helpful members on the forum who have moved to Australia/are looking to move to Australia who are only too willing to share their experiences with you.
 

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This has really made me question immigrating! Everyone I know who has gone over on a working holiday visa has had the time of their lives but I guess I never thought about the cost! :/
having moved from Ireland to Australia, i haven't found the cost of living that much higher than back in Dublin.

I honestly think it's a matter of finding ways around to ensure you're not paying top prices.
No matter where you plan on moving, the one thing you have to bear in mind is things will be different.

When I first moved to Ireland from France i thought the prices were ridiculously high yet I also very quickly realised I was making a lot more money than I was back in France.

You can't compare countries based on the price for groceries only. There is more to it than that. Not only is Australia in the middle of nowehere but the average wages are a lot higher than in most EU countries.

Do I spend more on groceries etc... than I would in Europe? Probably but I still have more disposable income than I ever did in the past.
 

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This whole idea of shipping costs being the reason for high prices is ridiculous. 90% of everything made in the world is made in Asia, and Australia is closer to Asia than Europe or America. Things cost more here because people are willing to pay high prices and high fees and taxes to support their businesses and government.
 

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This whole idea of shipping costs being the reason for high prices is ridiculous. 90% of everything made in the world is made in Asia, and Australia is closer to Asia than Europe or America. Things cost more here because people are willing to pay high prices and high fees and taxes to support their businesses and government.
Well the shipping costs are part of it. If you think about it, when I'm sending things over to Europe, or even to the West Coast in the US, it's costing me a lot of money.

I don't have a problem with the costs of things here. I don't believe this is an actual problem but it clearly is an issue for some people who have only just moved here. I never thought it was that bad even when I first landed here on a WHV.

I'm quite happy to support local shops because Australia hasn't been hit by the recession and I don't want it to. You just need to shop more wisely if you're on a budget which is fairly easy to do once you have settled down and have had the chance to shop around and find what's best for your means.
 

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What you pay to ship a package home has nothing to do with shipping 50 containers of lemons or auto parts. And it costs me more to ship a small package from Melbourne to Sydney than it does to have twice as big a package shipped here from the US when ordered from the sites I shop at.
 
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