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For the birth cert I'd use the number that's the same on the long and the short form certs.

Not sure about the passport. As far as I know passports just have a passport number (that would be the document identifier). National ID number is usually used in the context of national ID cards (in countries where those are used - AFAIK UK does not have national ID cards). Where is it asking you for this as it relates to U.K. Passport?
 
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