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Thanks JandE for the invaluable information provided.

Is the ''Recent PMV's highlighting high risk-v-low risk'' timeframe outlined in your response was sourced from the Dept's website? Wouldn't mind knowing its source so that I can check for future updates. Also what's the definition/classification of 'high risk' country category? ie is it based on faked cases?

Did you lodged the PMV application or via an immigration agent? Sometimes I wonder whether having an agent representative would improve the chance of a faster grant?

Sorry for all the questions. Just trying to understand the process and learn any tips as I would have to lodge for the 820 at a later stage.

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Immigration has stated that the low risk countries are those that are ETA eligible.
Low risk applies to nationals from countries which issue ETA eligible passports.
High risk countries are those which are not ETA eligible.


I did my partners visas myself, (300,820,801) but I do have years of government form filling experience. Although that did not remove the stress of wondering if I had done enough.

Using a migration agent may not speed things up, but it should give peace of mind knowing that the agent should not lodge until they are sure you have provided all the required information.
 

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Submitted April 2018. Completely front loaded, medical, everything. Partner from Philippines.

Still waiting.

We have been living together in Australia since then on a visitor visa.

Beyond a joke. Was holding up hope a new government being elected would improve things. Now starting to give up any remaining hope.
 

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Submitted April 2018. Completely front loaded, medical, everything. Partner from Philippines.

Still waiting.

We have been living together in Australia since then on a visitor visa.

Beyond a joke. Was holding up hope a new government being elected would improve things. Now starting to give up any remaining hope.
I would wonder if something isnt right with the application, as you previously said "We were contacted on 20 November 2018 to provide more information within 28 days".

I'm not sure a change of government would have improved things.

The most recent PMV granted in the Philippines took just 2.5 months, But another is still waiting after 15 months, showing that times can vary depending on the application itself.
 

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Submitted April 2018. Completely front loaded, medical, everything. Partner from Philippines.

Still waiting.

We have been living together in Australia since then on a visitor visa.

Beyond a joke. Was holding up hope a new government being elected would improve things. Now starting to give up any remaining hope.
I would wonder if something isnt right with the application, as you previously said "We were contacted on 20 November 2018 to provide more information within 28 days".

I'm not sure a change of government would have improved things.

The most recent PMV granted in the Philippines took just 2.5 months, But another is still waiting after 15 months, showing that times can vary depending on the application itself.
I wondered this too. We were contacted to provide documentation already provided. But it is impossible to actually talk to anyone about what that means or why they are asking. Anyway, we obtained new copies of the government documents requested on the same day.
 

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I wondered this too. We were contacted to provide documentation already provided. But it is impossible to actually talk to anyone about what that means or why they are asking. Anyway, we obtained new copies of the government documents requested on the same day.
Have you sent a nice enquiry recently, stating that they asked for things again, which were sent again, and are they waiting for anything else?

I found that the Manila staff seemed pretty good when we did our PMV.
 

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Many thanks JandE for your response. With your experience, perhaps you should consider changing profession to become a MRA :)

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The processing times are not easily understood, if at all.

I lived with my partner, in her country (Philippines), for 10 months before we applied for the 300. Not long enough to go for the 309.

We had joint bank accounts, landlord statements confirming joint tenant on my rental in her country. Proof of her trip with me to Australia before the 300 application.

It still took us 8.7 months for the PMV grant.

Recent PMV's highlighting high risk-v-low risk:
2.5 months from Philippines
6.2 months from UK
9.2 months from Vietnam
10.9 months from USA

UK and USA would normally be classed as low risk...

I feel that a very well presented application, made very easy for the immigration officer to understand, and with all documents attached, stands the best chance of an earlier grant.
might help if that was done but I used to hear in 2015 that . whether application prepared thoroughly or not , the grant will be pushed forward into the next fiscal year
if quota for the year filled . So I guess an application made very early in the fiscal year , say in june , might receive the grant in that fiscal year . the situation might have changed in last few years but may have got worse .
 

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There really seems to be little rhyme or reason in processing times.

Getting PMVs from Morocco approved in 5-6 months, while seemingly straightforward ones from Phillipines and China suddenly take 12 months.

There are so many factors at play: security checks, other background checks, interviews, checking of witness statements and so on.

I have had PMVs with medicals completed and all requests for further information dealt with sit there unmoving for another 3 months, for no particular reason I could think of.

Obviously, lodging a complete and well-prepared application should always be the starting point.
 

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Many thanks JandE for your response. With your experience, perhaps you should consider changing profession to become a MRA :)

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Too much responsibility for me, these days.
And too much learning to keep up with regulations..
 

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I would like to share my experience in PMV application.

I do believe that the lodgement country plays an important role in the processing times.

My timeline details is on my signature.
I took the advice of people here when I was lodging my PMV, to make it easier for the CO to look into your papers by uploading organized documentation.

1. Clear file names
2. Travel details in pdf with page 1 as the title (e.g SWEDEN TRAVEL 2017) with date of travel and accomodation details, page 2-3 ticket and boarding pass, page 3 onwards travel photos with captions.
3. Chat logs in pdf.
4. Video call screenshots in pdf.
5. Social media posts in pdf.
6. Relationship timeline in a diagram format. Month, year and photo provided for each box about the highlights of our relationship e.g first time we met, travel, engagement, met the parents etc

I submitted our PMV on January 2018, knowing that it won't be looked at as it was incomplete. Yes, I lodged our application with incomplete documents. June 2018 I went to Aus for a visit and also to do the NOIM paperwork. June 2018, we've submitted all our pending documents. At that time, there was no contact from the CO at all.

Aug 2018, I got a call from the CO asking about my previous relationships as I didn't fill it out on the application! So yes, fill it out even your ex relationships were not a de facto relationship. 2 hours after her call, I got the grant email.

So technically, imo, from the month i've completed our docs, June 2018 to Aug 2018 was just merely two months of processing. I was expecting more than a year of processing but got the grant earlier.

Im a Filipino national and visa applications in the Philippines do really take long (for most cases) however when I moved to Dubai to work, visa applications were all easy and smooth. I didn't get any tourist visa rejections when I applied for US, Japan, Korea, Schengen, UK, Aus etc. Sometimes, I do want to suggest to people that they should go to Dubai and apply their immigration visas there as it is really smooth but of course, it still depends on your circumstances. I have never been married nor have a child and so is my now-husband. No financial issues as well.

It's just a shame that the processing times put so much stress to people and also to the relationship. I do not know how else I can help but hoping that those who have been waiting too long can get their grant soon.
 

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Im a Filipino national and visa applications in the Philippines do really take long (for most cases) however when I moved to Dubai to work, visa applications were all easy and smooth. I didn't get any tourist visa rejections when I applied for US, Japan, Korea, Schengen, UK, Aus etc.
I feel that your previous travel history might have helped you too..

I submitted our PMV on January 2018, knowing that it won't be looked at as it was incomplete. Yes, I lodged our application with incomplete documents. June 2018 I went to Aus for a visit and also to do the NOIM paperwork. June 2018, we've submitted all our pending documents. At that time, there was no contact from the CO at all.
We actually did the same, and did not submit the NOIM with the application. We did that after arriving in Australia on a visitor visa, about 4/5 months later.

We got a request/reminder from Immigration for the NOIM, a few hours after we landed in Australia.
 

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I feel that your previous travel history might have helped you too..

We actually did the same, and did not submit the NOIM with the application. We did that after arriving in Australia on a visitor visa, about 4/5 months later.

We got a request/reminder from Immigration for the NOIM, a few hours after we landed in Australia.
The travel history might have helped, yes. I agree.

Another one good thing about applying visa (Aus) in Dubai is you can actually contact the CO. I remember when one of my tourist visa took almost a month of processing, I called the consulate to check the status and they transferred me directly to the CO. She said I missed to upload the salary certificate and that if I upload it before the cut off time that day, she will send me the grant notice. Now, I think that they (Dubai Aus consulate) do not really send reminders and just wait for you to upload all the requirement documents, cause I haven't received one at all. Not sure for the others though.
 

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The travel history might have helped, yes. I agree.

Another one good thing about applying visa (Aus) in Dubai is you can actually contact the CO. I remember when one of my tourist visa took almost a month of processing, I called the consulate to check the status and they transferred me directly to the CO. She said I missed to upload the salary certificate and that if I upload it before the cut off time that day, she will send me the grant notice. Now, I think that they (Dubai Aus consulate) do not really send reminders and just wait for you to upload all the requirement documents, cause I haven't received one at all. Not sure for the others though.
Your mention of salary certificate puzzles me. We never had anything like that, which is just as well, as neither of us were working.

Is this something new for the PMV? We did ours in 2015.
 

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Hi JandE

Just wondering whether you had contacts from the case officer (co) during your pmv application process?

I've contacted the Dept to enquire the progress of my application ie whether it has been allocated to a co but no avail. It makes it so hard to know how far ahead to nominate the wedding date... it's the second time I had to change the wedding date due to the uncertainty of when the visa will be granted and there's fees for changing the NOIM registration, so annoying.

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Hi JandE

Just wondering whether you had contacts from the case officer (co) during your pmv application process?

I've contacted the Dept to enquire the progress of my application ie whether it has been allocated to a co but no avail. It makes it so hard to know how far ahead to nominate the wedding date... it's the second time I had to change the wedding date due to the uncertainty of when the visa will be granted and there's fees for changing the NOIM registration, so annoying.

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Only to request our NOIM, as we didn't lodge it with everything else.

Most people who lodge everything up front don't get any contact.

It was a different person who did the grant, so it isn't just one individual case officer.
 

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Much appreciated your speedy response as always :)

I thought the NOIM was one of the mandatory/ required document so lodged it upfront. Also thought it would be considered favourably/strong evidence that our relationship is genuine.

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Much appreciated your speedy response as always :)

I thought the NOIM was one of the mandatory/ required document so lodged it upfront. Also thought it would be considered favourably/strong evidence that our relationship is genuine.

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They do say that, but we wanted to arrange the wedding together, in Australia, so we said we needed time to supply it and would apply for a visitor visa so we could do it together in Australia.

We ran the risk of delaying the PMV due to that, but felt it might increase the chance of a visitor visa for that purpose, while the PMV was in process.

The day after we landed in Australia ( she got a 12 month visitor visa) we got an email to remind us about doing the NOIM within 28 days.
 

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Thanks JandE for sharing those info.

I wanted to apply for the visitor visa while waiting for da pmv but concern if it’s refused then it might have a detrimental impact on our pmv. Although others advised the outcome of the visitor visa shouln’t affect the pmv but didn’t wanted to take the risk.

Probably the pmv process was much quicker a few years ago. Now it’s much tougher & takes foreverrrrr.

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Thanks JandE for sharing those info.

I wanted to apply for the visitor visa while waiting for da pmv but concern if it's refused then it might have a detrimental impact on our pmv. Although others advised the outcome of the visitor visa shouln't affect the pmv but didn't wanted to take the risk.

Probably the pmv process was much quicker a few years ago. Now it's much tougher & takes foreverrrrr.

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I've seen a number getting it faster than ours was in 2016, even though the 75% quoted is longer than it was then.

I can't think of having heard of any refusal for visiting visa having had a detrimental effect on a PMV.
 

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Yes from the forumn I see some mentioned their was granted within 2-4 months which really make me wonder the cause for the delay in our when it seemingly straight forward case and all required documentation was submitted.

The concern re the negative impact on da pmv was merely my thinking. For example I’m worried the Dept think that ( if the visitor is refused) we try other means to come to Aus via the pmv. I know it sbouldn’t be the case as the pmv was lodged prior to applying for the visitor visa but who knows the Dept’s view so wouldn’t want to do anything to jeoperdise our pmv chance.

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