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Hi all,

Me & wife are thinking of wanting to emigrate from England to Australia but as we are new to this we have no idea about this life changing dessision.

Were do we start ???

Were a family of 4,2 children aged 14ys & 5ys.

We have no idea how to start anything for this

Do we have to find work while still in Uk? What about a home? Can we live & work in Australia?

This is all new to us any information anyone can give would be very appreceated.
 

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Hi there!

In order to be allowed to live and work in australia, your entire family needs to have proper Visa's with working rights.

You should start by going on Department of Immigration & Citizenship. Then you can click on the box that says find a visa/ visa wizard. Answer a few questions and the site will give you suggestions.

My first guess for you would be though to get a Work visa--there are different kinds, some allow you to go to Australia based on your skills without an employer sponsoring you, and the other is to have an employer or someone else sponsor you.

Go and check out what you are eligible for first and have a good read of the information and information booklet assigned to it.

One thing to keep in mind though--right now, work visas are NOT being processed as a priority due to the economic crisis. So it could take a while (im talking a year or more) to get the visa approved.

So go have a look on the website, then come back and let us know what you are eligible for--there are plenty of people here that can help you out from there =)
 

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As elkitten indicates mmurdoch, the immi site is the place to start re how/whether you can qualify for immigration and it's essentially a skills based approach where you need to get so many points if doing it independently but can still have a lengthy wait as Australia has reduced its immigration program in line with the economic situation here just as the rest of the planet has been gripped.
http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/pdf/faq-priority-processing.pdf will give you the latest news on processing priorities and indicative wait times but I emphasise they are only indicative.

To get a good idea of the DIAC web site, you just need to have a look about it, Workers - Visas & Immigration also being a reasonable place to start and you will find there is a lot of information on the site, but just take it slowly and logically to get a feel.

If you get to the stage of considering a particular visa, when on a page for one you'll see five headings across the top and the "how does this work" "eligibility" and "applying for this visa" sections have a wealth of information.

Depending on skills you have, your first step could be to have skills assessed and on Professionals and other Skilled Migrants - Workers - Visas & Immigration you will see a link for the Skilled Occupation List [SOL] where you can see all the occupational categories and assessment authorities, that being a separate and preliminary process to most skilled visa applications.

The top link on the above page "What's New" is also one you ought to check frequently and that's where you'll see the priorities FAQ as second on the list.

It's all very much a case of sometimes following one link yo another and then to another to get info you may be looking for.

As to housing, where you might want to live etc., the latter for most people is where is the work and if you can get work in regional cities and even smaller towns/villages in rural/coastal areas, housing will be far cheaper than city prices and lifestyle a lot more relaxed too.

You can google up just about anything on any country theses days and also in our sections on hosuing and travel you'll find quite a bit of general info.
 

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Thankyou.I currently work in the Plant & Tool hire/rental sector as a depot manager and have done for for about 18yrs and would be looking to work in the same industry in Australia but i have no idea about seeking employment.
 

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Hi mm,
I understand unemployment is high in the Uk and Europe and though it is not quite as bad here it is heading up too, even if a bit slowly at the moment.

You do need to have some sort of specific qualifications for most GSM areas and the only area where there are minimal possibilities is to look at the Employer Sponsorship 457 visas which are for temporary residency but can lead to PR.

However as you raise yourself, it is more about finding employment and that with an employer prepared to sponsor, something that can be hard if not impossible to achieve in the current economic climate where many trades personnel have lost work with mining and manufacturing industry and are probably quite suited to the Plant hire/rental market.

I'd suggest that for now, you google up Plant hire and you'll find quite a few different companies and just start looking and sending out CVs and see how you go.
 

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To get to Australia on a permanent basis the main applicant has to be below the age of 45. This is the starting point. If both you and your wife are over, then don't bother. Trade qualifications are awarded most points, more points than managers, so if your wife is a hairdresser, for example, and has worked in her occupation then she should apply. Also, if you are not young, you may not score enough points if you remain in England. You might have to come to Australia on a temporary work visa to get some extra points for Australian experience. We might be able to help you if you provide more information.
Good luck.
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Age is also a factor but not a total exclusion as Dorota infers re
To get to Australia on a permanent basis the main applicant has to be below the age of 45. This is the starting point. If both you and your wife are over, then don't bother.
There is no age limitation on the 457 employer sponsored visa and though that is a temporary visa it can lead to permanent residency via the ENS/RSMS and there are age exemptions that can be applicable with those visas.
 

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yes, the so called 'exemptions' are in Regs called 'exceptional circumstances' and are very hard to meet. Here is an extract from policy

16.2 Exceptional circumstances on age grounds

In considering whether exceptional circumstances apply to an applicant who is 45 years or older, officers should consider whether:
• it is not possible to find a suitably qualified person to fill the position who is younger than the applicant
• the duties of the position are unique or so specialised that few, if any, persons younger than 45 years old would have the same level of expertise or
• the position would normally require a person with skills and experience acquired over many years (for example, senior academics or scientists).
Other considerations are whether the position is critical to the operation of the nominating employer’s business and whether the occupation for which the applicant has been nominated is on the MODL.

I'm sorry I didn't mean to mislead anybody. Indeed, until we find out more about the circumstances of the person who posed the question, we can't really help. I was basing my advice on the limited info re qualification, a manager of a hire shop is very unlikely, in my opinion, to be able to get away with the age requirement.
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yes, the so called 'exemptions' are in Regs called 'exceptional circumstances' and are very hard to meet. Here is an extract from policy

16.2 Exceptional circumstances on age grounds

In considering whether exceptional circumstances apply to an applicant who is 45 years or older, officers should consider whether:
• it is not possible to find a suitably qualified person to fill the position who is younger than the applicant
• the duties of the position are unique or so specialised that few, if any, persons younger than 45 years old would have the same level of expertise or
• the position would normally require a person with skills and experience acquired over many years (for example, senior academics or scientists).
Other considerations are whether the position is critical to the operation of the nominating employer's business and whether the occupation for which the applicant has been nominated is on the MODL.

I'm sorry I didn't mean to mislead anybody. Indeed, until we find out more about the circumstances of the person who posed the question, we can't really help. I was basing my advice on the limited info re qualification, a manager of a hire shop is very unlikely, in my opinion, to be able to get away with the age requirement.
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dorota
Im 35 yrs in Aug and my wife will be 39 yrs In Sept.
Since leaving school i have mainlky worked in the plant/Tool hire industrie starting as a fitter/technician of small tools.After a few years i decided to try to work my way up the ladder in the hire industrie. Starting as just a hire controller ect to area manager.I left Hss hire about 10 years ago due to being offerd a better package by another company and i'm still there now as a depot manager.
My wife currently works in retail for Mama's & Papa's designer baby products as a supervisor.She has always worked in retail.

My children are 15 yrs and 6 yrs

Is they anymore info i could add to help you help me.

Thanks everyone

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Hi mm,
I understand unemployment is high in the Uk and Europe and though it is not quite as bad here it is heading up too, even if a bit slowly at the moment.

You do need to have some sort of specific qualifications for most GSM areas and the only area where there are minimal possibilities is to look at the Employer Sponsorship 457 visas which are for temporary residency but can lead to PR.

However as you raise yourself, it is more about finding employment and that with an employer prepared to sponsor, something that can be hard if not impossible to achieve in the current economic climate where many trades personnel have lost work with mining and manufacturing industry and are probably quite suited to the Plant hire/rental market.

I'd suggest that for now, you google up Plant hire and you'll find quite a few different companies and just start looking and sending out CVs and see how you go.
I would love to be able to do this, but dont you have to be able to work in Aus 1st??
 

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I would love to be able to do this, but dont you have to be able to work in Aus 1st??
There'll certainly be more likelihood of an employer being interested in an employee if they are here for face to face interviewing but you do not actually have to have a visa for working in Australia first.

That is what an employer sponsor visa is for.

So what I've suggested is a part of a multi stage approach with researching for possible employers, sending CVs and doing follow-up calls all being what you could call Stage 1.
Of course you also need to have a look at the employee eligibility requirements to see if you'll be eligible.

I'm suggesting that so as you get an appreciation for what opportunities there may be and to assess the extent of potential for picking up a sponsorship and whether it is worth investing in a trip.
Hot off the signing table is news of a latest China Coal supply contract in Queensland, a broad description of some aspects @ 'New dam needed' to service mining deal
Typically, I could see lots of contractors with work in such a project and project managers/contractors in turn are usually good customers of plant hire companies.
There are a couple of large China Gas export projects to be developed in WA as well over coming decade.

http://www.hireamigrant.com/ is also typical of various types of employment agencies that might be able to assist you, there being a number that concentrate on mining/resources industries.

Some people with more specialised high in demand skills can score a sponsorship from abroad but there're quite a few who do decide on recce trips, most in past possibly arriving on an ETA [visitor] - Electronic Travel Authority (ETA) - Online Applications .
Though it is not illegal to go making enquiries of businesses whilst on a visitor/tourist visa, it is not considered good form by immigration and if they suspected someone was actually here for working they could refuse entry.

It may be safer to use an ETA Business with the business of assessing plant hire companies for the scope of their activities re potential for immigrating [or something like that ] .
An ETA is only $20 and you can get some cheap enough return flights or even a one way flight Stansted > KL > Oz. with Welcome to AirAsia.com, The World's Best Low-Cost Airline

If you come over prepared to start and an employer is prepared to sponsor you, then there is nothing to stop you applying for a 457 visa and they can be processed quite quickly, especially if employer has experience with them or is prepared to use an agent and it could be that an agent may even be able to offer a good package deal for both employer and employee to expedite the visa application being submitted.

You also need to appreciate there is a down side to 457 visas, the main one being that the visa is conditional on you having an employer sponsor and so if employment is curtailed for any reason, you need to find a new employer sponsor, get a different visa or leave [ nominally 28 days allowed though sometimes there can be some extra time given ].
 

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Hi all,

Me & wife are thinking of wanting to emigrate from England to Australia but as we are new to this we have no idea about this life changing dessision.

Were do we start ???

Were a family of 4,2 children aged 14ys & 5ys.

We have no idea how to start anything for this

Do we have to find work while still in Uk? What about a home? Can we live & work in Australia?

This is all new to us any information anyone can give would be very appreceated.
you can get some ideas of my experiences on my web diary
 
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