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Hi! I'm new to this.

I have a question re. the 186 Visa. On the governmental website, under “Expression of Interest”, it states:

“If you do not have an employer who will nominate you, you can submit an Expression of Interest (EOI) through SkillSelect. Prospective employers and state and territory governments can then view your details and decide whether to nominate you for skilled migration.”

But when we login to SkillSelect EOI, it states: “The EOI for this subclass is able to be completed.” When I click on “Apply Visa”, I get a pop up window where it states: “In order to lodge an application for this visa type, the employer must have already begun their nomination application. You will need their Transaction Reference Number (TRN) to continue.”

Then we are asked: “Do you wish to start lodging a visa application for this visa now?” YES or NO.

How do we proceed? Can we proceed? Thanking you in advance.

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Anna Linda
 

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You cannot proceed to apply for a visa until you have an employment offer from an employer who has submitted their nomination application.

The likelihood of finding an employer through an EOI is virtually zero. I've never heard of it happening and I've seen posts from migration agents saying they've never seen it happen either. Your best course of action would be to first find an employer who will offer you a job along with sponsorship.
 

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You cannot proceed to apply for a visa until you have an employment offer from an employer who has submitted their nomination application.

The likelihood of finding an employer through an EOI is virtually zero. I've never heard of it happening and I've seen posts from migration agents saying they've never seen it happen either. Your best course of action would be to first find an employer who will offer you a job along with sponsorship.
Dear Maggie-May24,

Sorry about delayed response. We got the news yesterday that yes, my husband will be relocating to OZ with the same company he's been with for 11 years, and will have sponsorship. Because the the time difference, we cannot speak with the HR Manager until tomorrow. We were told my husband's visa will take two months so we should plan on 1 May latest to be in OZ. What visa can be approved in such a short time? Could it be a 457? My husband is a highly skilled Application/Process Engineer with 11+ years at his current international company and three years before that at an inter'l pharmaceutical co. He's got two Masters of Engineering degrees. We have mixed Danish, Icelandic & Canadian passports. Now if it's a temp visa, will our eldest son be able to follow us and attend UNI? He's 16 and should complete his studies by 2020 and thereafter enter UNI. We're concerned our accepting a temp visa will affect his studies.

If it's 457, can we after two years working for the same company transition to PR? It's a big move for us and our three children, so we want to know if it's going to get us to OZ permanently. We were told I get a work permit too.

Any ideas? We want to relocate to OZ, so we're pretty sure we'll accept this lateral move.

I was reading more about the 186. If my husband gets the 457, can he, when he is 47 (in 2 yrs time), apply for the 186 under the Temporary Residence Transition stream? It's our eldest son we're most concerned with because if we get the PR as 186 by 2020 our son will not need to return to Copenhagen alone to do UNI. He'll be able to continue living with us in OZ.
Thank you Maggie-May24!

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It would likely be the 457 (changing in a couple of weeks to a 482 visa) and if they are an accredited sponsor (big company with lots of history sponsoring 457s) then it would get priority processing so 2 months may be quite reasonable.

You would also get a 482 as would your dependent children. You can work and they can attend school although your son would pay international tuition fees.

If your husband is 47, then at best he could extend his 482 indefinitely. The cutoff for a PR visa is 45. There previously was an exemption based on income but I think that's been closed off now.
 

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Dear Maggie-May24,

I now have more information. My husband, who just turned 45 this past February, has been offered a position at the same company he’s been working at, to relocate from Denmark to Australia. A few days ago, we spoke to the Migration Agent (MA) provided by the company’s HR, and he informed us that they will apply for a TSS visa for my husband. As far as I can gather, as soon as the MA has all the info, he’ll submit the visa application.

We asked how long it should take. My husband’s employer had advertised his position in OZ all of April. No qualified candidates were screened for interviews, as his position is very specific, and entails knowledge that my husband has garnered over the past 10+ years working for this global company. For due diligence, the company readvertised the position earlier this month and will keep it up a further 2-3 weeks (from the first week of May). Thereafter, as far as we understand, the company is free to submit his visa application, as no Aussie has his specific qualifications.

That is the background. Here come the questions.

1-We asked the MA how long the TSS application once submitted would take, and he said he honestly didn’t know, as the TSS is so newly implemented. Q: Do you have any idea how long the TSS Medium Term application process takes? Under “Global visa and citizenship processing times”, it states: “Unavailable due to low volume of applications.”

2-If my husband does get the 4 year TSS visa, as I understand it, after three years, he will be applicable for the 186 Visa, under the Temporary Residence Transition Stream. He is over 45 and under the “Age, Skill and English requirements and exemptions”, his salary is above the threshold, and if his salary each year is above the threshold, he is age exempt. Q: Am I understanding the exemption correctly?

3-Q: As my husband has just turned 45, is it correct that he is inapplicable for the 186 Visa under the Direct Stream? I was thinking that if his employer were willing to sponsor him, it might be better to do the 186 Visa, Direct Stream but he is 45, is there no age exemption for the Direct Stream?

4-When I read the “Temporary Skill Shortage visa and complementary reforms: questions and answers” pdf (page 10), it specifies the age changes that affect the 186 and 187 visas. Q: Can my husband apply for the 186 Visa under the Direct Entry stream if he is above 45, under 50 and if his annual salary will be above the wage threshold of 142.000 AUD per annum?

5-On page 12 of the same pdf, does my husband have to apply for the 186 Visa before March 2022? I am wondering if I understand the changes correctly. If all goes well, my husband will get TSS sometime this year, 2018, and by 2021, he should be applicable for the 186 as his wage will be each year above the annual threshold.

6-We understand as temporary visa holders, we must pay school fees for our three children. Our eldest son, aged 16, might then have to wait with uni as after the two years as TSS visa holders, he would not be applicable for OZ PR/citizen student fees. I think he would need to wait a further year until we would get PR. Q: So we need to wait one more year on the TSS than previously on the 457, if I understand things correctly?

7-Are there any Skills Assessments involved with TSS or 186 Visa? And does my husband need to join Engineers Australia (just as here in Denmark, he is a member of the Society of Danish Engineers)?

8-I made an EOI for my husband in September 2017, before he was offered the relocation to OZ position. Does that help in any way?

Basically, if we have no chance of getting PR after three years, maybe we need to reconsider this move unless there is a chance of PR in the future.

Thank you, Maggie-May24.

Best regards,
Anna
 
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