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Just a quick question;

When in the form of the Partner Visa application, they ask the "date the de facto relationship commenced", do they mean when did we start dating or when did we start living together?

I'm asking this because there're two questions and the first asks "when and where did the de facto realtionship began" (which I take as 'when did you move in together') and then the second question asks "the date the de facto relationship began" (which seems to ask the date the dating began)... so I'm confused as the questions are basically the same.

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Defiantly put the date you started your "defacto" relationship.. as in your anniversary date. I just got my visa and that question confused me too and I put the date we moved in together and my lawyer picked it up and changed it to the date we met.
 
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surely if it is asking when the defacto relationship began it means when you met the conditions of the definition of a 'defacto relationship' i.e. as turboadam has stated, when you commenced living together? it's the level of serious commitment that they are granting the visa based on, i.e that you have been living together, not just known each other or dating that defines a 'de facto' relationship.
 

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surely if it is asking when the defacto relationship began it means when you met the conditions of the definition of a 'defacto relationship' i.e. as turboadam has stated, when you commenced living together? it's the level of serious commitment that they are granting the visa based on, i.e that you have been living together, not just known each other or dating that defines a 'de facto' relationship.
Millie, I would have thought that but my lawyer called me and said a defacto relationship doesn't necessary mean you are living together. You can be in a defacto relationship and be living separately.

Good point regarding using the phrase "dating". when you write your personal declarations use started our defacto relationship on this date rather than started "dating".
 
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I can see why the lawyer might say that but if you look in the booklet that is on the immi website to accompany the visa it has definitions of a lot of the terms they use. I think for the purposes of the visa application you need to go by the immigration departments definitions and from memory the defintion they give does say something to the effect of when you started living together. Also i would think that you'll be making reference to when you made the decision to progress the relationship from the 'dating' phase to the more serious level of commitment of 'cohabiting' and so it would be important not to contradict yourself (and any other family and friends who might be writing statements also) in doing this. I know there is a tendancy to want to 'trust' a lawyer, but i think in this case you need to follow closely what the immigration department is looking for and be sure that your lawyer is aware of their defitions for the purpose of the visa applications.

From my own personal experience, my partner and i stated that the defacto relationship we are in started when we moved in together (we had been 'dating' for almost 2 years prior to moving in) and this has not caused any problems with our application. I know of several other friends who have gone throught this application process (most of who are all, coincidentally, lawyers or legal secretaries themselves) and have all stated on their applications that their defatco relationships started when they moved in together. Hope that helps.

Good luck with your application.
 
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