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A question on Offshore Visa Subclasses 175/176. Should a person if qualifying for 175-Independent Skilled Visa consider 176-State Sponsored Visa just for the sake of raising his/her priority?

Considering the limitation State sponsorship imposes i.e You must live in the sponsoring State for the first two years after which you can live elsewhere in Australia, is it worth it?
 

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A question on Offshore Visa Subclasses 175/176. Should a person if qualifying for 175-Independent Skilled Visa consider 176-State Sponsored Visa just for the sake of raising his/her priority?

Considering the limitation State sponsorship imposes i.e You must live in the sponsoring State for the first two years after which you can live elsewhere in Australia, is it worth it?
It is questionable given the intent for State Migration Plans and with nought being known on their format other than occupations on them having higher priority than state sponsorships, it can remain questionable and unanswerable.
 

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It is questionable given the intent for State Migration Plans and with nought being known on their format other than occupations on them having higher priority than state sponsorships, it can remain questionable and unanswerable.
Are you trying to say that it isn't clear yet that State Sponsored Migration (176) will have higher priority over Independent Migration (175)?
 

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Are you trying to say that it isn't clear yet that State Sponsored Migration (176) will have higher priority over Independent Migration (175)?
Given http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/pdf/priority-processing.pdf sponsorship will be taking a back seat to SMP occupations, much like a two tier approach re sponsorship as I have said elsewhere though there is nothing yet to say a SMP occupation will need sponsorship and that may be as it is intended, certainly reducing paperwork/process re sponsorship.

Away from SMP, 176s are accorded higher priority over 175s but both are going to be at the back of the pack behind SMPs.
 

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Given http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/pdf/priority-processing.pdf sponsorship will be taking a back seat to SMP occupations, much like a two tier approach re sponsorship as I have said elsewhere though there is nothing yet to say a SMP occupation will need sponsorship and that may be as it is intended, certainly reducing paperwork/process re sponsorship.

Away from SMP, 176s are accorded higher priority over 175s but both are going to be at the back of the pack behind SMPs.
Hmmmm..... I was under the impression that State Migration Plan is the new way or new name for State Sponsored Immigration i.e I thought they will make changes to State Sponsored Immigration and launch it as State Migration Plan which can have occupations that are not on new SOL and if a person falls on a State's occupations list, s/he will be eligible for State Migration Plan i.e 176 which will have higher priority than 175, at least that what I understood from Chris Evans speech, please let me know if my assumption isn't true.

I announce today that I have invited each of the State and Territory governments to draw up State Migration Plans. These plans will form bi-lateral compacts to frame the level and type of skilled migration sought over a rolling four-year period. The best plans are likely to be those that are framed within an economic development perspective.

Where they have labour market evidence to support it, the states and territories will be able to nominate occupations that do not feature on the new, more targeted Skilled Occupations List.

Under new priority processing arrangements that take effect from today, migrants nominated by a State and Territory government under their State Migration Plan will be processed ahead of applications for independent skilled migration.

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I reiterate though that priority processing arrangements which favour employer sponsored migrants and those nominated by State and Territory governments will remain in place.
Detailed speech Changes to Australia's skilled migration program

If what you say is correct then is there going to be a new visa type for State Migration Plan? and how is it going to work and what will be the priority order in your view?

Furthermore, if the States are going to support both State Migration Plan and Sponsorship lists and they are going to have extensive staffing for this then what would be the purpose of DIAC? What role would DIAC play in future?
 

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Hmmmm..... I was under the impression that State Migration Plan is the new way or new name for State Sponsored Immigration i.e I thought they will make changes to State Sponsored Immigration and launch it as State Migration Plan which can have occupations that are not on new SOL and if a person falls on a State's occupations list, s/he will be eligible for State Migration Plan i.e 176 which will have higher priority than 175, at least that what I understood from Chris Evans speech, please let me know if my assumption isn't true.

Detailed speech Changes to Australia's skilled migration program

If what you say is correct then is there going to be a new visa type for State Migration Plan? and how is it going to work and what will be the priority order in your view?
I try not to assume too much and re the SMPs containing occupations not idenitified on SOL, what there will be will need to fit
Where they have labour market evidence to support it, the states and territories will be able to nominate occupations that do not feature on the new, more targeted Skilled Occupations List.
The State Migration Plans do have to be approved by immigration.
Other than that, if you have a look at the link re processing priority changes you will see that both State Migration Plans [ with Priority level 2 which state sponsored CSL formerly had ] and sponsorship still exists.
There is also more information in the raft of announcements on 08February.

The CSL did not require a separate visa and was just a list of occupations as SMPs will be - as I stated before:
though there is nothing yet to say a SMP occupation will need sponsorship and that may be as it is intended, certainly reducing paperwork/process re sponsorship.
The mechanism of flow to relevant states is however one issue to be addressed for success and thus something akin to sponsorship may be instituted, and as previously
It is questionable given the intent for State Migration Plans and with nought being known on their format
We will know when we know.
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Furthermore, if the States are going to support both State Migration Plan and Sponsorship lists and they are going to have extensive staffing for this then what would be the purpose of DIAC? What role would DIAC play in future?
My view on staffing needs is somewhat represented by
though there is nothing yet to say a SMP occupation will need sponsorship and that may be as it is intended, certainly reducing paperwork/process re sponsorship.
For DIAC, aside from Australia being the Commonwelath of Australian States and Territories bound together with a Constitution that has certain roles, powers and reponsivilities invested in the federal government, a read of Department of Immigration & Citizenship will give further indication.

Quite simply, the states do not individually control the external border of Australia.
 
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