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Guys and Girls. I want to marry my girlfriend but not sure of the exact time line with regards where she needs to be on what visas etc.

The Plan is as follows:

She has a Australian 12 month tourist visa with 3 month max stays at the moment. On her next 3 month visit we plan to marry here in Australia. So I'm guessing after we are married we apply here in Australia for the 820 visa.

BUT what happens next? Does she have to still leave the country when the 3 months tourist visa expires? Does the application for 820 cancel the tourist visa?

The long and the short of my question is how do I marry my GF and minimise the time we are apart?
 

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Does she have to still leave the country when the 3 months tourist visa expires?
No - you can expect a bridging visa to be granted with immediate Medicare eligibility and full work rights after the visitor visa expires.
Does the application for 820 cancel the tourist visa?
No. It would expire after 3 months from the most recent entry and the bridging visa would be activated.
Marriage per se is not enough to satisfy the criteria for a partner visa.

May I suggest that you consult a registered migration agent for advice about what you might need to do to satisfy the criteria for a partner visa?
 

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Guys and Girls. I want to marry my girlfriend but not sure of the exact time line with regards where she needs to be on what visas etc.

The long and the short of my question is how do I marry my GF and minimise the time we are apart?
Get some professional advice, work out a realistic strategy and timeline and do not rush into anything.
 
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you need to prove to immi that you have been living together in a defacto relationship for 12 months before you apply
4 x 3 month visa = 12 months so i'd apply online just before the last visa expires, even if it's 11 months and 2 weeks before you apply will be ok
I married my partner on a 3 month tourist visa where we'd only been in a defacto relationship for 2 1/2 months now she's a permanent resident 3 years later.
You don't always need a migration agent, it aint all that difficult really.
 

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you need to prove to immi that you have been living together in a defacto relationship for 12 months before you apply
4 x 3 month visa = 12 months so i'd apply online just before the last visa expires, even if it's 11 months and 2 weeks before you apply will be ok

You don't always need a migration agent, it aint all that difficult really.
So what happens if separate partner sponsorship applications are introduced next year that need to be approved before a visa application can be lodged ? What happens if the sponsorship is not approved before the 3 month stay period expires?

If you need to meet a 12 month de-facto period, then 11 months and 2 weeks may not be ok at all. I have seen applications refused that were only a week short of the required 12 month period.

What worked for you once, may not necessarily work for someone else.
 

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The example of falling short of the 12 month de facto time is even listed on the DIBP website. It states that you can still apply falling short of the one year requirement "however, your application is likely to be refused..." (and they get to keep your money). Source: https://www.border.gov.au/about/corporate/information/fact-sheets/35relationship

The requirements are very clear. Getting married does not guarantee a partner visa. They look at a relationship as a whole. If you meet the evidence requirements, you can get the visa with or without being married. If you rush into marrying with little relationship evidence, you'll risk refusal. They've refused plenty of married people before who thought being married was enough to get in to the country on a migration visa.

Basically, if you plan on marrying to marry, go ahead. But don't rush into for a partner visa because it won't make much of a difference and could even hinder your application depending on your circumstances.

Also, not being married but engaged to be opens the door for another visa option that often is the only realistic visa option for some couples. You don't want to marry and burn your chance of having that route if it better suits your relationship needs.

Your best bet is to get a consult with an RMA and at least get a better understanding of your options before you make any major decisions.
 

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So what happens if separate partner sponsorship applications are introduced next year that need to be approved before a visa application can be lodged ? What happens if the sponsorship is not approved before the 3 month stay period expires?

If you need to meet a 12 month de-facto period, then 11 months and 2 weeks may not be ok at all. I have seen applications refused that were only a week short of the required 12 month period.

What worked for you once, may not necessarily work for someone else.
You have your online application ready to go and then 2 days before visa expires you press the apply now button pay the fee's then your emailed bridging visa A
If you can prove that your in a genuine relationship ie get married half way through the 12 month period I'm sure immi won't refuse, of course there is an element of risk involved but it's worth the risk so you and your partner aint apart...
 

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Also, partner visas do not appear to be as simple to get as they were many years ago. While someone may have been able to do it a certain way then, it doesn't mean you will be able to do it that way now.
 

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You have your online application ready to go and then 2 days before visa expires you press the apply now button pay the fee's then your emailed bridging visa A
If you can prove that your in a genuine relationship ie get married half way through the 12 month period I'm sure immi won't refuse, of course there is an element of risk involved but it's worth the risk so you and your partner aint apart...
How will this work?

For the planned new changes in 2018 for the pre approval of the sponsor before a Partner Visa application can be made!

I expect it will be
1) apply for sponsorship.
2) supply other documents (police checks)
3) get sponsorship approval number.

4) open immi account with use of sponsorship number.
5) fill out application.
6) submit
7) BVA grant if still legal in Australia on previous visa.

8) Meet schedule 8 if not.
 

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You have your online application ready to go and then 2 days before visa expires you press the apply now button pay the fee's then your emailed bridging visa A
If you can prove that your in a genuine relationship ie get married half way through the 12 month period I'm sure immi won't refuse, of course there is an element of risk involved but it's worth the risk so you and your partner aint apart...
This must be the worst "advice" I have heard for a long time. Saying that you're "sure" what Immigration will or will not do is quite bold.

Some concerns ( apart from the fact that there are no one-size-fits-all solutions):

  • If separate sponsorship applications are introduced your suggested strategy may backfire quite spectacularly. You can't simply ignore this possibility.
  • Leaving an application until 2 days before the expiry of a tourist visa is also an extremely risky strategy.If the application can't be lodged for any number of reasons, you'll have no time to sort out the issues and you may become unlawful.
  • Not everybody may be in a position to "risk" $ 7000.00 and several years of misery. If you're that casual about it, you may as well put the money on a horse. The odds are probably better.
 

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Depends on the odds
Well you could also roll the dice with an RMA which will cost you more $$$$ and still not guaranteed
There are never any guarantees, but a good RMA will advise their clients on the basis of their personal circumstances and the relevant legislation in place at the time. They will also advise them about any potential pitfalls, so that the client can make an informed decision.
 

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A reputable RMA with over a decade of experience is a much safer bet than some random guy with advice on how he did it years ago with lots of things changing in the process since then (not including possible changes in the near future).

I mean, if we're talking about gambles.

But as always, the decision is in the hands of the original poster. Advice is advice and only they can choose what to do with it.
 

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Speaking from personal experience here... a friend put me in contact with her roommate who was planning to take the same route I did (300-820-801). She wanted to do it herself and save the money and saw we did it ourselves and were successful.

After many weeks of walking her through what we did, she finally sent me her stuff and asked me to look it over. After seeing the amount of mistakes she made and how poorly her evidence was gathered, I told her she should probably just contact an RMA (gave her a few names that I'm familiar with on this site) and she chose one.

That RMA may have very well made the difference between a failed app and a successful one. She made a lot of changes and has now been asked to leave the country for her grant. Just because the relationship was genuine didn't mean the application would be successful.

Just a thought to consider. Yes, it is very possible to get a partner visa without the help of an RMA, but your chances for error are far less by hiring the services of a professional who does this for a living.
 
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