[raj.kiran.r]

Hi All,

I'm planning to apply for tourist visa, for sydney...

However, I 'm not able to submit my leave letter from my employer as I'm not willing to disclose to my employer about my trip to australia for a week. Can you please guide me how to go about it.

Also, is there any chances of rejection for a tourist visa.... I have my fiance in Australia and the purpose is to apply on tourist visa and meet together for a week before we decide on getting married. Is it good if we both apply for fiance visa or Prospective spouse visa instread of Tourist visa

We both met in marriage website a year ago and are in phone on a long distance relationship,. is it better to ask my
fiance to come down to india for getting married and then apply for visa to get the visa in a fast manner..

 

[Jeremy Hooper]

My recent experience is that if a young applicant for a visitor visa doesn't provide evidence of employment the Immigration Department refuses their visa, irrespective of what passport they hold. So you will have to provide lots of evidence regarding ties to home country to strengthen your application.

 

[raj.kiran.r]

My recent experience is that if a young applicant for a visitor visa doesn't provide evidence of employment the Immigration Department refuses their visa, irrespective of what passport they hold. So you will have to provide lots of evidence regarding ties to home country to strengthen your application.

Thanks Jeremy for the advise, In our case, what do you suggest to be a right way to going for visa...Since we both are in love....but have never met in person..Its online relationship...Will it speedup the process of me coming over to australia if my fiance comes to india and we get married in a registered ceremony....if yes...how long it will take for me to get the spouse visa...if my fiance sends the invitation....for spouse visa.\partner visa

 

[ampk]

I m pretty sure getting married in your case will slow down the process.

 

[raj.kiran.r]

I m pretty sure getting married in your case will slow down the process.

Why do you think so, if we get married after we meet. it helps the process right.

 

[mattb]

No I actually don’t think getting married is your quickest option. That’s only my opinion and you should speak with a registered agent in Australia.

My understanding is that if you get married you would still need to supply financial evidence, co-habitation evidence and social evidence. Examples would be joint assets , joint bank accounts , evidence of living together as a couple , joint travel , photos together.

Given you’ve never met in person that would prove difficult.

Your best option would probably be to actually physically see your fiancé, perhaps even exchange rings or formalise the engagement then apply for a prospective marriage visa. Then look at potentially obtaining a travel visa to see each other.

That’s the approach I would take, but get some advice or at least be very well read before spending $7k on an misinformed doomed to fail application 👍

 

[ampk]

That is correct mattb.

 

[ampk]

Why do you think so, if we get married after we meet. it helps the process right.

I don't think but know.

getting married actually means nothing or a (negative) for a visa often .

 

[raj.kiran.r]

I don't think but know.

getting married actually means nothing or a (negative) for a visa often .

What if My fiance is a Australian Citizen?

 

[raj.kiran.r]

No I actually don't think getting married is your quickest option. That's only my opinion and you should speak with a registered agent in Australia.

My understanding is that if you get married you would still need to supply financial evidence, co-habitation evidence and social evidence. Examples would be joint assets , joint bank accounts , evidence of living together as a couple , joint travel , photos together.

Given you've never met in person that would prove difficult.

Your best option would probably be to actually physically see your fiancé, perhaps even exchange rings or formalise the engagement then apply for a prospective marriage visa. Then look at potentially obtaining a travel visa to see each other.

That's the approach I would take, but get some advice or at least be very well read before spending $7k on an misinformed doomed to fail application 👍

If my fiance is a australian citizen, will it quicken up the process?

 

[mattb]

The processing times for a partner or prospective marriage visa make no discretion between PR and Citizenship for your fiancé /spouse that I’m aware of. It would not quicken up any process.

 

[Eh?]

If visa processing was prioritised by sponsors being citizens we would have daily grants.

Unfortunately that’s not the case. Citizen or PR the application you and your partner provide will still be examined the same as all other applications.

Given what I’ve read in your other thread (as well as your other posts) I can tell you want to get to Australia as quickly as possible. Unfortunately that is not likely to happen, or at least not as fast as you want.

My advice is to speak to a RMA about your situation. In the meantime, read over the requirements for visa subclass 300 as it’s the one mostly likely to fit your situation.

 

[Jimmy875]

I m pretty sure getting married in your case will slow down the process.

I'm just curious as to why being married would slow the process down?

Surely being married will get rid of the 12 month living together requirement, there are some cultures that wouldn't allow you to live together out of marriage I think. Also how can you live together when you are in different countries?

Or is this because these guys have actually never met and have no evidence of being together other than Text and voice messages?

Any information is much appreciated.

 

[ampk]

I'm just curious as to why being married would slow the process down?

Surely being married will get rid of the 12 month living together requirement, there are some cultures that wouldn't allow you to live together out of marriage I think. Also how can you live together when you are in different countries?

Or is this because these guys have actually never met and have no evidence of being together other than Text and voice messages?

Any information is much appreciated.

That comment was based on what was posted.

This is an online relationship and they have never meet so basically they don't have any evidence to date - I would in my opinion think that Immigration would count everything they have to date as basically dating.

Yes people from certain cultures have been granted visas and never lived together and marriages are often arranged in these cultures - this does not fit a cultural marriage.

Getting married will remove the 12 month de facto requirement, but they have very little to no relationship evidence other than a marriage certificate - an application soon after marriage for a Partner Visa in my opinion look like the marriage was for the visa first and foremost.

I would expect a high chance of refusal, then the long process of trying to gather relationship evidence (while apart) and reapplication - would in my opinion slow down the process of obtaining a Partner Visa possibly by +/- 3 years.

But that is just my opinion.

 

[Jimmy875]

That comment was based on what was posted.

This is an online relationship and they have never meet so basically they don't have any evidence to date - I would in my opinion think that Immigration would count everything they have to date as basically dating.

Yes people from certain cultures have been granted visas and never lived together and marriages are often arranged in these cultures - this does not fit a cultural marriage.

Getting married will remove the 12 month de facto requirement, but they have very little to no relationship evidence other than a marriage certificate - an application soon after marriage for a Partner Visa in my opinion look like the marriage was for the visa first and foremost.

I would expect a high chance of refusal, then the long process of trying to gather relationship evidence (while apart) and reapplication - would in my opinion slow down the process of obtaining a Partner Visa possibly by +/- 3 years.

But that is just my opinion.

Are you a migration agent?

 

[ampk]

No not even close, I fix airplanes for a living.

I just have lodged many more visa applications than most, some via MRA's, fought many battles and read a hell of a lot of comments over many years including from Registered Migration Agents.

 

[ampk]

If my memory serves me correctly:-
1 x Visitor Visa with child - approved - DYI
1 x Visitor Visa with 2 children - approved - DYI
2 x children Citizenship by Descent - DYI
1 x Waiver 8503 (No Further Stay) - DYI
1 x onshore Partner Visa 820 - DYI
1 x Citizenship - DYI
1 x Visitor Visa - DYI
1 x Visitor Visa - Refused - DYI
1 x Visitor visa - DYI.
3 x Visitor Visa - Refused - non RMA.
3 x Visitor Visa - Refused - RMA
2 x Visitor Visa - RMA.
1 + 2 PMV application - RMA checked.
3 x Visitor Visa - RMA
1 + 2 Partner Visa 820 application - DYI

 

[ampk]

Last 6 lines above cost around $80,000 but includes some extra stuff as required - like being offshore for a PMV grant at about $10,000 for us.

 

[Jimmy875]

If my memory serves me correctly:-
1 x Visitor Visa with child - approved - DYI
1 x Visitor Visa with 2 children - approved - DYI
2 x children Citizenship by Descent - DYI
1 x Waiver 8503 (No Further Stay) - DYI
1 x onshore Partner Visa 820 - DYI
1 x Citizenship - DYI
1 x Visitor Visa - DYI
1 x Visitor Visa - Refused - DYI
1 x Visitor visa - DYI.
3 x Visitor Visa - Refused - non RMA.
3 x Visitor Visa - Refused - RMA
2 x Visitor Visa - RMA.
1 + 2 PMV application - RMA checked.
3 x Visitor Visa - RMA
1 + 2 Partner Visa 820 application - DYI

You would certainly know your way around the Immigration rules after that.

What do you think of my situation?

I travel overseas every month to see my Partner. We don't have bills together as I stay in Australia to work. (The money is too good to leave)

She comes here sometimes on a Vistors visa but that's only happened twice this year, it's easier for me to go there. She has a good job and is degree qualified. I think there is plenty of evidence that we are together, photos, tickets, friends who know us as a couple.

We plan to marry in November and then apply offshore with the hope of getting a visitor visa will we await the decision. I can easily support her while it's processed.

I've never had anything to do with Immigration other than passing through airports. So I know nothing other than what I've read so far.

What's your take on this application?

 

[ampk]

Do your homework.

It is all about evidence (in 4 categories)

You have given nothing I can comment on if you should use a visa over another or any evidence you have.