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Hi , I am currently in Australia under dependent student Visa - my husband is studying and about to graduate. I was offered a job from an Australian organization and they offered me a PR. They have lodge an application for me - 857 Regional sponsored Migration Scheme(RSMS) and it was already certified regionally, they have lodge in their application for nominating me as an employee. They have asked me to do my part in lodging my application. So far , I have done medical examination and have yet to go for police check. My question here is, do I have to go through qualification assessment since my employer are willing to sponsor me. How long will it take? In the checklist, it asked for nomination form from my employer, but my employer only gave an ID. Kind of new for all of this and definately confusing.

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Hi , I am currently in Australia under dependent student Visa - my husband is studying and about to graduate. I was offered a job from an Australian organization and they offered me a PR. They have lodge an application for me - 857 Regional sponsored Migration Scheme(RSMS) and it was already certified regionally, they have lodge in their application for nominating me as an employee. They have asked me to do my part in lodging my application. So far , I have done medical examination and have yet to go for police check. My question here is, do I have to go through qualification assessment since my employer are willing to sponsor me. How long will it take? In the checklist, it asked for nomination form from my employer, but my employer only gave an ID. Kind of new for all of this and definately confusing.

Please help!
You do not have to get a skills assessment though an eligibility requirement is to have relevant qualifications, required to be of diploma level is indicated and evidence of that as stated on the Checklist
http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/skilled-workers/_pdf/ens-rsms-checklist.pdf

http://www.immi.gov.au/asri/a-z.htm#top will give relevant qualifications.

The Checklist also states that you have the employers nomination form or if that has already been accepted, a copy of the acceptance letter.

If the employer has lodged nomination but not yet received notification of acceptance, perhaps they will by time you're ready to apply or they made a copy of the nomination form that you can attach to your application.
 

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Thank you for your reply,

Currently I am holding an MBA from Malaysian university, Bachelor degree (hon) from UK university, recently I received my Certificate IV in teaching and assesment from college in Australia. I have 1and half year teaching experience in Australia and prior to that I have 8 years teaching experience from my home country. So I just submit all this qualifications together with my application form, and I don't have to go through vetasses or ensol? I will be teaching in a higher education here by the way.

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Thank you for your reply,

Currently I am holding an MBA from Malaysian university, Bachelor degree (hon) from UK university, recently I received my Certificate IV in teaching and assesment from college in Australia. I have 1and half year teaching experience in Australia and prior to that I have 8 years teaching experience from my home country. So I just submit all this qualifications together with my application form, and I don't have to go through vetasses or ensol? I will be teaching in a higher education here by the way.

Geen
I would have thought Geen that if you have been teaching in Australia already you would have already needed your qualifications assessed by Teaching Australia and also to be registered with whatever State organisation was applicable but perhaps your employer did not consider all that necessary seeing as you were already here and had good qualifications, but still something of a strange situation.

Whilst in theory as it says on the IMMI site that you do not need qualifications assessment, I think you may find that you will get caught up in the teaching profession requirements net, ie.
Regional Sponsored Migration Scheme (Subclass 119/857) also says you need to be registered and I am pretty sure that you'll find when seeking to be registered, for registration you will need the TA assessment.

Being registered to teach also means for most states if not all, that you need a particular police clearance for working with children so make sure you seek that and it could be separate to the standard immigration police checks - for Australia and other countries you have been in for more than 12 months in the past ten years, though if you had the latter done as part of your clearance for initial entry and have remained in Australia since, they should be OK.

The other thing to be checked is whether you hold a qualifying visa being on a dependant one, something I am not totally sure of.
Student visas are listed - Qualifying Visas - Employer Sponsored Workers& Immigration , though with a condition on the course having been completed and so that refers to the primary visa holder.
You could give Immi a ring on 131881 to discuss that or even though the employer has left it to you to get your application done, if they are using an agent, I would ask if it would be possible for you to ask them about that.

It'll be in the employers interest for the sooner you do find out whether you will be eligible to apply and if so what is required and how long it may take, all the better for them.

The other issue you need to be aware of is if you are employed teaching now and not registered and with police clearance for working with children, they are matters you should get immediately addressed for you and the employer could legally not be compliant with the state regulations.
 

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Hi,

I am teaching in the university here in Queensland, does it still need the Assessment? If yes where can I do it and how? I thought that the assessment for teaching here only applicable to those who are teaching primary and secondary students.
 

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I am teaching in the university here in Queensland, does it still need the Assessment? If yes where can I do it and how? I thought that the assessment for teaching here only applicable to those who are teaching primary and secondary students.
Ok, sorry about that as my mind was on secondary teaching with teaching being mentioned, and yes, lecturing or tutoring at Universities comes under Vetassess.

They are the assessors only in respect to immigration but seeing as you're here and we're back at just having the relevant qualifications and there is no registration/licensing, I'd expect your degree and MBA should be fine.

I would still check re your dependancy to a student visa holder being considered as holding a qualifying visa, get your employers nomination documentation in hand and apply for the PCC and it ought to be plain sailing.

Are you also putting your husband down on this visa for that will then give him PR too, perhaps even a reduction in any further fees.
A new form out to re Australian Federal Police for the PCC.
Character Requirement - Applications & Forms

Hopefully, I'm on the right track now but keep asking if need be.
 

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Dear Wanderer,

You are right under my current visa, I am not ligible to be nominated as PR here.. I called the immi just now and they said it is not the qualifying Visa.. :mad: . I immediately called my agent just now and he said that the only option is to apply via offshore. Will that take forever? Will my current employer nominations be affected by this changes? Do they need to do any changes on their form at all? I did my medical examination here in Australia, will that still valid if I am going lodge offshore?...

Confuse ..


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Dear Wanderer,

You are right under my current visa, I am not ligible to be nominated as PR here.. I called the immi just now and they said it is not the qualifying Visa.. :mad: . I immediately called my agent just now and he said that the only option is to apply via offshore. Will that take forever? Will my current employer nominations be affected by this changes? Do they need to do any changes on their form at all? I did my medical examination here in Australia, will that still valid if I am going lodge offshore?...

Confuse ..

Geen
It'll not affect your employer nomination other than if there is on the form provision to state whether you the applicant is making an application onshore or offshore [ I think it is the sanme form but haven't checked on that, nor the provision ] and same form is used too [ do check though ] and you just nominate offshore and the 119 instead of the 857 onshore.

If you look at the eligibility requirements for the employer you'll see that they're identical and likewise for you the applicant other than the qualifying visa is not mentioned.

You'll also see there that you can lodge the offshore application while here in Australia and the only requirement is that you'll need to be offshore for the visa to be granted.
The only thing that could change that would be if your dependant student visa had a No Further Stay condition on it and if so, it'd mean an additional trip offshore to actually lodge there.

So in effect, there is little change other than the inconvenience of having to make a trip to New Zealand or a trip back to Malaysia, [ pretty cheap fares between the Gold Coast and KL ].
Makes you wonder sometimes why the difference!

Your medical is still Ok and so you can still go ahead with it.
There is likely to be little difference in processing time and if in Australia at time grant decision is to be made you'll get contacted to make arrangements for a short overseas holiday to allow granting to proceed [Immi normally say to allow just 4-5 days but I've known of people flying to NZ and finding the next day the visa is already granted ].

I think your husband will need to do likewise if you include him and certainly best to do so.
 

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Thank you so much Wanderer..

You truly save my day, I can't imagine had I proceed applying the visa.. Thank God I found this forum and your helps.. Now it's finally clear to me. You reckon I should use an agent for my application...seems easy but again, I can still do huge mistake.
 

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Thank you so much Wanderer..

You truly save my day, I can't imagine had I proceed applying the visa.. Thank God I found this forum and your helps.. Now it's finally clear to me. You reckon I should use an agent for my application...seems easy but again, I can still do huge mistake.
You seem to have a reasonable grasp of data once you're aware of it and I'd expect no less of people with your level of education and work experience Geen.
So if you just make good use if the Immi info on the web site, there being the eligibility and applying for this visa sections, the latter having a detailed Checklist and then there's Booklet # 5 for additional back-up, you ought to be able to do it yourself without too much difficulty.
Regional Sponsored Migration Scheme (Subclass 119/857)
There's also a lot of info tucked away on the links of different pages, some of it handy to be read and some less needed.

So now you have a general idea, print off your Checklist and just go through that making references to other info where needed and you can save yourself a few thousand $$$.
 

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Thanks Wanderer,

I checked from the charges section and I noticed that payment need to be done from oversea. Can you advice to me how to make this payment.

You mentioned that I need to go out once the Visa is granted, how do I know when should I go out or book a ticket? How will I know that the Visa is about to be granted?


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Just another question Wanderer..i've chek thru my employer nomination Form 1054 that they submitted and there is no indication of me applying onshore or offshore on their form but they do indicate that I am currently under dependant on my husband's 573student visa on the form. Will this information have any effect on my offshore application that I will submit?

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Thanks Wanderer,

I checked from the charges section and I noticed that payment need to be done from oversea. Can you advice to me how to make this payment.

You mentioned that I need to go out once the Visa is granted, how do I know when should I go out or book a ticket? How will I know that the Visa is about to be granted?

Geen
I just had a look at a couple of Immi pages Geen and cannot see where it says you need to pay from overseas.
There is mention of how payments can be made in Australia for an application from abroad but quite specifically there is reference to payments for when you lodge in Australia.
If you follow the sequence of info/statements thus:
Regional Sponsored Migration Scheme (Subclass 119/857)
Note: Applicants who do not hold a qualifying visa can apply for the offshore RSMS visa (subclass 119) and lodge their application in Australia. However, applicants must be outside Australia at the time of visa grant.
Employer Sponsored Permanent Visa Charges
1st instalment
If you are outside Australia when the visa is granted
$1705
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How to Pay
re options.
It seems there is an $825 bonus for a visa that needs you to be outside Australia to be granted.

For knowing when you need to leave Australia for granting, how I have seen it reported happening in other situations is the CO will know from your application that you are applying for an offshore visa that needs you to be offshore for granting and yet you have given an Australian address, so when the visa grant is ready to be finalised, you'll be contacted so as you can make arrangements and they'll suggest that you advise them within usually 28 days of your intent to depart and then confirm in the last week before departing.
I have suggested to people that it also does not likely hurt to send in an email from the airport to confirm departure imminent.

I think what a CO likely does is access Immi's operational side computer system that logs all departures/arrivals for Australia and the computer will show you as having departed and then the visa can be granted.
 

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Just another question Wanderer..i've chek thru my employer nomination Form 1054 that they submitted and there is no indication of me applying onshore or offshore on their form but they do indicate that I am currently under dependant on my husband's 573student visa on the form. Will this information have any effect on my offshore application that I will submit?

Geen
If you have a look at your application form, you'll see that be it onshore or offshore the employer does use the same nomination form and the nomination is about the position and not where the applicant is.
http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/pdf/47es.pdf

You tick the offshore application box and that is what will indicate your situation as it needs to be.

Your visa situation they have nominated will just indicate that it is not a qualifying visa and the reason why you need to be applying for an offshore visa.

Question 4 on your application may tease you some for it asks what is the visa you hold [ if applying in Australia ] and in one sense it may be expected that it would be left blank for whilst you are lodging in Australia, it is in essence an application from outside of Australia.

You could put your dependant visa in there though to save any confusion, I'd make a call to Immi just to clarify on if you are lodging onshore for an offshore is that considered applying from offshore and if so, do you leave
Q4. blank.

Also note that your application form specifically says do not lodge until the employer nomination is submitted or you can submit them together.
 

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Thanks again for ur info. Wanderer. About the 1st Installment payment, is payment upon lodging application or after the visa is granted? Confused on this...
 

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Thanks again for ur info. Wanderer. About the 1st Installment payment, is payment upon lodging application or after the visa is granted? Confused on this...
All visas require payment at the time the visa is lodged to be accepted.

First installments does confuse some people and thereference to a second installment is only for where you may have a partner and children who do not have what is considered functional english level, 4.5 on IELTS and so if you're including your husband and he is studying here, he will probably have that standard and didn't check myself but the application form probably refers to that.
He may need to do a test if he hasn't previously, it being a lot cheaper than the second installment.
 

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I would like to ask for your assistance. I was about to lodge my visa application for GSM Subclass 175 last May 10 when DIAC suddenly suspended the acceptance of visa application for GSM. Today, DIAC released the new SOL. I feel so disappointed because my skill is no longer in the list (Computing Professional 2231-75 nec). I have taken my IELTS (7 on each module). It saddens me that after spending my money and effort for skills assessment and IELTS, I am no longer eligible for Skilled Independent Visa. The only visa option left for me is Regional Sponsored Migration Scheme (Subclass 119) but I find it hard to find an employer who's willing to provide sponsorship for my profession. I already checked each state's website and they require Computing Professional with specialisation in some field such as Database, Network, etc. Can anyone help me please? I don't know what to do right now, I really want to migrate to Australia....
 

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I would like to ask for your assistance. I was about to lodge my visa application for GSM Subclass 175 last May 10 when DIAC suddenly suspended the acceptance of visa application for GSM. Today, DIAC released the new SOL. I feel so disappointed because my skill is no longer in the list (Computing Professional 2231-75 nec). I have taken my IELTS (7 on each module). It saddens me that after spending my money and effort for skills assessment and IELTS, I am no longer eligible for Skilled Independent Visa. The only visa option left for me is Regional Sponsored Migration Scheme (Subclass 119) but I find it hard to find an employer who's willing to provide sponsorship for my profession. I already checked each state's website and they require Computing Professional with specialisation in some field such as Database, Network, etc. Can anyone help me please? I don't know what to do right now, I really want to migrate to Australia....
Sorry for the typo, that was Computing Professional 2231-79 nec.
 
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