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Hi all,
I was just wondering if anyone could give me any advice on our current situation in which my chinese finances visitor visa was refused.
About 2 weeks ago we applied for a 12 month visitor visa, we applied for this visa due to the fact we have a prospective marriage visa currently pending and we wanted to spend this time together in Australia while waiting. I wrote a statement clearly explaining this in the visitor visa application and also made it very clear we understood my partner would have to leave Australia in order for that visa to be granted. We also made it clear that I, as her sponsor, would be funding her trip. This is because she only makes the equivalent of about $200 a week here in china and only has about $1800 in savings.
This brings me to my next point, in which we understand the mistakes we made but are also very confused about the grounds on which the visa was refused..
Today we received a phone call from a CO in shanghai, she was incredibly rude and almost had my fiance in tears, straight off the bat she began asking us questions to confirm our identity, like names and birthdays of us and our family members, then eventually moved on to employment and money. Now im currently living in china with my fiancee and have been for the past month, we decided last month that she would quit her job this month to prepare to come to Australia in june. She had to give 6 weeks notice so we decided now was a good time so we could spend nore time together before i head back to australia next month to start my new job. So the CO almost immediately made it seem like she didnt believe my partner was a genuine visitor after hearing this as she had no evidence of her financial status. At the end of the conversation we were told we would be contacted if there were any further questions, about 20 minutes after the call we recieved this refusal email.(see attached image)
Now our big mistake was obviously not providing evidence of her employment from when she was still working, however i thought that the fact i was taking responsibility for this would mean this wasn't required. I also didnt put foward evidence of my employment either, this is because i am currently unemployed after leaving my job to live in china temporarily, however i do have a job lined up for next month which i would of happily provided evidence of if requested, i didnt realise they would straight up decline us without giving us a chance to provide the extra evidence. As the CO says in the letter they have doubts she is entering for the purpose stated, aka a genuine visitor. But what?? The fact we have paid $7000 dollars for a pmv and clearly understand the term required for that visa is for her to leave the country means nothing to the CO?? Did we just get incredibly unlucky?? I find this incredibly stupid but regardless, i know getting worked up about it on the phone to the offive wont change the decision, so our best bet now is to just start a fresh application and address the finance issues.
So this is where i would like to ask a few questions and get some advice on putting in our new application..
This time we will just go for a 6 month visa as maybe they wont be so tough on it , we also think 6 is just enough for us to wait out the time for our pmv.
1. I don't have a lot of savings myself atm due to being unemployed and travelling since december, approximately $8000 aud. However my fiances parents will give her $10,000 to deposit in her account which means she will have about $12,000 total.. but.. will the CO be suspicious of the sudden cash deposit? Im not sure how this works.. and if she is , can we get her patents to write any statements saying it is for her to keep?
2. My fiancee also has a $35,000 car in her name here in china, will showing evidence of this help to prove she has an asset to come back to?
3. Also as im currently unemployed, upon return i will just be living at my parents house for a brief period of time before finding a new place to rent. I didn't show any evidence of where she would be living in the initial application, so because of the fact we will be living in my parents house for that short period perhaps a stat dec by them stating that she will live there with no rent costs might help?
4. I will also make it even clearer in this invitation letter that she is strictly here to visit and explore australia while waiting out her pmv visa, i will include statements about where she will be living and provide evidence including my bank statement and evidence on my employment upon returning home.
5. If anyone can think of anything else we should include in our next application, or explain the grounds of that refusal letter more clearly id be really happy to hear..
I know there is a lot of information here and possibly a few slightly complex points we made but im really stuck here ao any help would be greatly greatly appreciated.
Based on what i read online i thought having our PMV in progress would make this application really simple, im either very wrong or we just got really unlucky with this CO.
I was just wondering if anyone could give me any advice on our current situation in which my chinese finances visitor visa was refused.
About 2 weeks ago we applied for a 12 month visitor visa, we applied for this visa due to the fact we have a prospective marriage visa currently pending and we wanted to spend this time together in Australia while waiting. I wrote a statement clearly explaining this in the visitor visa application and also made it very clear we understood my partner would have to leave Australia in order for that visa to be granted. We also made it clear that I, as her sponsor, would be funding her trip. This is because she only makes the equivalent of about $200 a week here in china and only has about $1800 in savings.
This brings me to my next point, in which we understand the mistakes we made but are also very confused about the grounds on which the visa was refused..
Today we received a phone call from a CO in shanghai, she was incredibly rude and almost had my fiance in tears, straight off the bat she began asking us questions to confirm our identity, like names and birthdays of us and our family members, then eventually moved on to employment and money. Now im currently living in china with my fiancee and have been for the past month, we decided last month that she would quit her job this month to prepare to come to Australia in june. She had to give 6 weeks notice so we decided now was a good time so we could spend nore time together before i head back to australia next month to start my new job. So the CO almost immediately made it seem like she didnt believe my partner was a genuine visitor after hearing this as she had no evidence of her financial status. At the end of the conversation we were told we would be contacted if there were any further questions, about 20 minutes after the call we recieved this refusal email.(see attached image)
Now our big mistake was obviously not providing evidence of her employment from when she was still working, however i thought that the fact i was taking responsibility for this would mean this wasn't required. I also didnt put foward evidence of my employment either, this is because i am currently unemployed after leaving my job to live in china temporarily, however i do have a job lined up for next month which i would of happily provided evidence of if requested, i didnt realise they would straight up decline us without giving us a chance to provide the extra evidence. As the CO says in the letter they have doubts she is entering for the purpose stated, aka a genuine visitor. But what?? The fact we have paid $7000 dollars for a pmv and clearly understand the term required for that visa is for her to leave the country means nothing to the CO?? Did we just get incredibly unlucky?? I find this incredibly stupid but regardless, i know getting worked up about it on the phone to the offive wont change the decision, so our best bet now is to just start a fresh application and address the finance issues.
So this is where i would like to ask a few questions and get some advice on putting in our new application..
This time we will just go for a 6 month visa as maybe they wont be so tough on it , we also think 6 is just enough for us to wait out the time for our pmv.
1. I don't have a lot of savings myself atm due to being unemployed and travelling since december, approximately $8000 aud. However my fiances parents will give her $10,000 to deposit in her account which means she will have about $12,000 total.. but.. will the CO be suspicious of the sudden cash deposit? Im not sure how this works.. and if she is , can we get her patents to write any statements saying it is for her to keep?
2. My fiancee also has a $35,000 car in her name here in china, will showing evidence of this help to prove she has an asset to come back to?
3. Also as im currently unemployed, upon return i will just be living at my parents house for a brief period of time before finding a new place to rent. I didn't show any evidence of where she would be living in the initial application, so because of the fact we will be living in my parents house for that short period perhaps a stat dec by them stating that she will live there with no rent costs might help?
4. I will also make it even clearer in this invitation letter that she is strictly here to visit and explore australia while waiting out her pmv visa, i will include statements about where she will be living and provide evidence including my bank statement and evidence on my employment upon returning home.
5. If anyone can think of anything else we should include in our next application, or explain the grounds of that refusal letter more clearly id be really happy to hear..
I know there is a lot of information here and possibly a few slightly complex points we made but im really stuck here ao any help would be greatly greatly appreciated.
Based on what i read online i thought having our PMV in progress would make this application really simple, im either very wrong or we just got really unlucky with this CO.
