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Hi all! My partner and I have been together for two years. Applying for 309 De facto. We have been in de facto for 18 months of it but have periods where we dont have as much evidence due to separation and using imessage and facetime that isnt on phone records. Someone mentioned registering with the Australian government helps with the visa. Does anyone know anything about registering with the state of Victoria and the difference between that and just registering with Melbourne. My partner is a citizen and resident of Melbourne do I need to be too? Do I need to be in Australia? What exactly does registering your partnership mean/do? Any information on this topic would be helpful.

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Hi all! My partner and I have been together for two years. Applying for 309 De facto. We have been in de facto for 18 months of it but have periods where we dont have as much evidence due to separation and using imessage and facetime that isnt on phone records. Someone mentioned registering with the Australian government helps with the visa. Does anyone know anything about registering with the state of Victoria and the difference between that and just registering with Melbourne. My partner is a citizen and resident of Melbourne do I need to be too? Do I need to be in Australia? What exactly does registering your partnership mean/do? Any information on this topic would be helpful.

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Register a relationship - Births, Deaths & Marriages Victoria

both of you need to have resided in Vic for at least 12 months to be able to register.


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I lived in Victoria for 10 months on working holiday visa. He has lived there for years but I had to go back to the US for work. Is it a hard 12 month guideline?

What about registering with the city?


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Registering with the state of Victoria waives the requirement for you to have been in a de facto relationship for 12 months. That's all it does. If you've been in a de facto relationship for 18 months and can evidence that, it's unnecessary. If you are concerned about being able to evidence 12 months in your de facto relationship, then registering with the state will help. Registering with the city does not waive any requirements. They look at each case individually for registration, but I believe Victoria is pretty strict about both people being residents for 12 months. You could try.

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By the way - your time as a de facto couple starts when you first lived together. Periods of brief and temporary separation after that are okay as long as you have evidence you've stayed in touch during those time periods, and continued to share finances, etc.

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I left Australia in June and since september my partner has been here in the US with me until this past weekend. He "ordinarily" resides in Victoria. I am not a citizen but my bank account in Aus and TFN is still registered under his/our home in Melbourne. Would that technically be considered residing? If I were to go back that is where I would live.


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That is where we struggle. I got the WHV to move in with him and lived with him for the 10 months I was there. However, being on a whv I didnt make much money and he owns his own home so I never paid rent or bills. When we separated I stupidly didnt keep tabs on the fact that we solely used imessage and facetime - we both upgraded phones since then and have no records of conversations. Just proof that I never closed my accounts in Australia and that he bought a flight two months later to try to move to the US.


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Yeah, no evidence of staying in contact might be an issue. No emails? You can't get phone records from the phone company? No Facebook messages back and forth? Did you keep sharing finances?

In regards to registering in Victoria, you could call Births Deaths & Marriages in Victoria and ask. Yours is not a straightforward situation.

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Calling to clarify is still a good idea, but I suspect it's not possible, since the first piece of evidence they ask for is evidence of right to be in Australia. It must be one of these things:
Birth certificate issued in Australia
Australian citizenship certificate
Australian visa/s in overseas passport*
Department of Immigration and Citizenship (DIAC)
official statement*
Certificate of Resident Status (CERS)*
Current New Zealand passport*
* If you provide this document you may be asked to provide
additional evidence of your right to have resided in Australia over
the past 12 months


which suggests it's not possible to retroactively claim, other than the 12 months immediately prior to now. And you don't have a visa to show them right now, I'm assuming.

And then there's this section:
You must provide documents from the below list that show your current
residential address and prove you have resided in Victoria for the last
12 months.
Lease or tenancy agreement
Bank statement (including passbook, credit, savings or
cheque accounts)
Rates notice
Utility account (including gas, water, electricity, mobile or
home phone)


which I'm not sure if you have evidence of?

That said, the form evidently has not been changed since DIBP was called DIAC, at least, so there may be some recent changes that aren't reflected on the form.

Sorry. Victoria is hard for registering.

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Hello everyone,
I am quite confused about how to show " prove you have resided in Victoria for the last 12 months." part. I am thinking about registering my relationship as well and I am living in VIC for 5 years. So how can I prove it without lease? I have an old lease, which was last for 1 year and now we are on monthly lease.

I hope it is ok that asking these questions under this topic. If it is not, sorry. Just really confused about it.
Thanks in advance.


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