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Old 09-07-2011, 04:42 PM
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Hi ~ I am a UK Citizen and met my Australian Citizen boyfriend when he came to UK 15 months ago. He came here again in August last year and I went out in Oct, then for 10 weeks in April 2011... we keep in contact every day by skype. We want to marry in Australia and wonder if we can apply directly for the partner visa...or do we HAVE to apply for the prospective spouse visa firstly? Also, on either visa, would my 14year old dependant child be entitled to free education (Northern Territory), or are International Student fees applicable? I cannot seem to find these answers anywhere on the web.


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Hi,

I'm not sure about your question in regards to your child's education fees, but can answer your first query. You would not qualify for the partner visa, as for that you either need to have been in a de facto relationship (i.e. living together) for 12 months, or married. As you are simply in a long distance relationship, if you are wanting to come to Australia to live based on your relationship, you would need to apply for the PMV.

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Hi kaytejwoman,

1st question is as missmullen's reply. Regard to 2nd question, as I know your child have to pay full school fee as international student until his/her PR granted, then he/she can access to public school for free. But seemingly depend, u better check with the school that your child intends to get in.

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You don't have to get a prospective marriage visa, then marry, then apply for the partner visa.

You can come over and get married and apply directly for the partner visa, however in this case the visa that you come on must not have a "no further stay" condition.

The price of:
prospective marriage + partner, OR
any other visa + partner
= the same

The partner visa price is reduced when you come on a prospective marriage, whereas if you come on a tourist visa the partner visa cost is increased - so in fact there's no different in price.

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Hmm, it was my understanding that no school is free per se. Parents usually pay an annual fee that's very small and as the child goes to high school there are usually some extra levies depending on the classes taken. Not 100% sure as I went to a private high school but I knew a girl who went to the local government high school and her dad refused to pay the annual fee as at some schools they only have "voluntary contributions"... I think it's looked down on to not pay at all though unless you really can't afford it.

Not sure about international fees for primary school/high school kids. That seems strange. If she already has PR by the time she goes to uni (if she decides to do so) she will not have to pay international fees. My ex was from England and moved to Oz and started uni I think he was able to use the Higher Education Loan Programme (HELP) scheme as he said he would become a citizen once his 2 year PR period was over.

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Thank you every body for your replies, they help immensly. I am clear now with the issue of visa... it seems that PSV is the best way to go as then I don't have to worry that the visa I go on has a 'no further stay condition'. With regard to my childs education, when we were there in April for 10 weeks and tried to get her in school, we were told we had to pay International student fees.... however, if a PSV or Partner visa entitle me to free education, wouldn't my child be entitled too?


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It won't entitle you to free education. It will entitle you to be charged as a domestic student in which case you don't pay your university fees upfront, you pay the government back once you start earning a certain amount of money. I am a domestic student (Australian citizen) and already have almost $18,000 debt... it's interest free but they do an indexation based on the changes in cost of living, inflation, etc, so my debt actually goes up by around $500 a year (when not paying it off) due to "adjustments". Once again, no idea about primary or secondary school but if you or your daughter are thinking of doing tertiary studies just thought that you should be informed that it is not free even if you are an Australian citizen... not sure how that relates to your question about primary/secondary school though.

Here's a link to a Northern Territory education website, not sure how useful it is but education varies from state to state so best to check with sources in the NT. Goodluck

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Once again - thank you. Your responses help clarify a great deal. Very helpful website


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Actually on the temporary subclass of the partner visa you must pay international up-front fees. It's only when you become a permanent resident (2 years after being a temporary resident) that you can pay domestic fees.

What does this visa let me do?
Partner temporary visa
- study in Australia, but you will not have access to government funding for tertiary study and will be charged international upfront full fees

Partner permanent visa
- study in Australia (same fees as an Australia citizen)


I've got a big debt too miniaturemoose It's annoying to think that we owe them so much!

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Oh yes, you're right Sarah. For some reason my ex an his family all had PR when they came over. I guess they came over on a completely different type of visa though. I momentarily forgot about the 2 years temporary visa.

SarahM, just one off topic question. You were studying full-time when you applied for your fiance's visa, is that right? You didn't need an assurance of support though, is that correct? Is that because you were in Australia when you applied? I'm considering applying for postgrad for 2012 but am worried that it will affect my eligibility as a sponsor (in financial terms). Of course if my partner didn't have a job and needed support I would cut down to part time study and work. I wasn't sure if I should mention this though as I haven't even applied yet/not 100% sure that I will or if I'll even get in if I do apply. What do you think? I believe honesty is the best policy but in this case I'm not even sure there's anything to disclose yet.


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