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Old 02-18-2015, 02:54 PM
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Oh okay, yeah sweet.

So far we uploaded close to 25 pdf files, but we still dont know what heading our statement should go under since we wrote ours not in a Stat Dec form we just type it and print and sign and scan it back so....can that be uploading in the Evidence of Relationship heading then under the sub heading of Stat Dec? also we have a cover that state we will do the medical once we their advise us, and we will also start applying our Police check for both country now in april 2015 so that gives us another 3 months later so should be okay by the time CO is assign the PC still wont be expire. but not sure what heading. i think CG mention, it wasn't necessary since our cover page also has an content page of all the evidence we provided as well.

i was just suprise that sponsor is the person 2 in the application for migration to Australia by a partner. because i panic for a second once we pay and i was like....what put myself as an applicant as well? how is that possible. but then it wasnt it just has Person 1(over 20 headings), Person 2. ( only 13 heading the last heading is the 40sp)

So did we did it right? Pretty much all the stuff we will upload will be on the application for migration by a sponsor. Coz on that main page it has all the heading for person 1: my wife and person 2: myself. So there is no need to even go back to your account summary where it listed the Sponsor form, and Applicant form then select and use the sponsor ship form to upload your heading correct? because in the sponsor form where the heading and file receive section it state progress received since the TRN is linked to the main application so whatever the sponsor upload in the sponsor heading there in migration t australia by a partner, it will show up on received as status on the Sponsorship for a prtner to migrate to australia 40sp as well?? Wish I can I take a photo and show u more easier lol

So our form at this stage look like this. in our account summary we have to files
Sponsorship for a Partner to Migrate to Australia (300,309/100,820/801) Status: Submitted
> in this form, we are seeing the exactly same heading in Migration to Australia by a partner, Person 2 heading.
Migration to Australia by a Partner (300,309/100,820/801) Status : in progress
> when you click on >Edit> it take you the the applicant section > it shows Person 1: my wife (with over 20 headings) > Person 2: Myself ( 13 headings )
> we can attach the document using the person 1 or person 2 heading. however we use the Top Right corrner where it has a button that said attach document
> we can than chose between applicant name: my wife or myself, then select the category etc and description the file and chose the file to upload.

So in migration to Australia by a Partner, we been uploading everything onto person 1: my wife first, so far about 25 pdf. then ID document to person 2: myself.
at the bottom of each person, it shows attachment provided: listed all the name of file we uploaded.

now the problem is, when i go back to the account overview
and select the > Sponsorship for a partner to migrate to Australia. > It bring me to the page where me, as a sponsor can upload as well with the exact same heading i was upload before on my wife? is this normal? how this time on this form, the heading such as passport, other id it has a status saying "Received" BUT if i look at the attachment provided box on below the heading, there is no files listed in this form? is this normal? so what happen was i though the file didnt go through, i quickly when back to my wife applicantion
>Migration to Australia by a Partner (300,309/100,820/801) Status : in progress
>look at the person 2 : with my name on it
>under person 2 heading
>attachment provided
- the files i uploaded early is here instead and it also state, "Received status" is this happening because the 2 application is link by the TRN so doesnt matter where you upload to?

Sorry Mish, CG, just really annoyed why so confusing the online application why make 2 heading for the sponsor to upload. If their actually just make it simple like
Sponsorship for a Partner to Migrate to Australia (300,309/100,820/801) - Upload all your file withing those heading
Migration to Australia by a Partner (300,309/100,820/801) upload your wife files within those heading

that would make more sense lol but its not instead the Migration to Australia by a Partner (300,309/100,820/801) form you can upload applicant and sponsor, then when you go to the Sponsorship for a Partner to Migrate to Australia (300,309/100,820/801) its asking the exact same heading in the Migration to Australia by a Partner (300,309/100,820/801) hope you get what im trying to explain if not ill see if i can screen shot what i mean...

Also another question relating to the medical im seeing this under the Heading for person 1. which is my wife the applicant.

Meeting the health requirement
This person is required to complete health examinations for this visa application. Click on the link below to organise these health examinations.
Organise your health examinations. a link that we can click, it wasnt there before but now it reappear....

Once this person's health examinations results have been assessed by the department this page will be updated to reflect this.
Note: If this person does not complete the required health examinations the visa application can be refused. If this page has not been updated and the person has completed their health electronically, it is advised they check that the clinic has submitted the results before contacting the department. For advice on how to do this see: Electronic health processing.

with that, can we just ignore it till around May this year? and we just organise it ourself if we havnt heard anything from the CO? coz that way at least it wont expire better than completing it now and risk having it to re apply again. lol


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Old 02-19-2015, 12:14 AM
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I remember when we added our statement there wasn't anything that really jumped out for the statement so I just added it in the best place. Basically, the case officer will be able to see all the evidence when they get it.

IMO a cover letter is not necessary and just uses up an upload slot.

I don't remember ever uploading the items using the "sponsorship of a partner" form. I remember doing it the same way as you did which everything under the applicant's form and then select if it was for person 1 or person 2.

I was of the impression with health checks you can wait until the case officer is assigned to do them. When people get one of those automatic emails from DIBP at around 6 months or 9 months (somewhere down the track) they are usually told then to get the medicals and police checks done if they have not been done.

I think police and medical only expire for offshore applications. I have yet to hear or someone been asked to redo police and medicals checks for onshore applications.

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Old 02-19-2015, 03:22 AM
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Helllloo Mish

Thank you for reading my confusing part of trying it explain about the uploading section yeah. I was just worried about why my files isnt showing up on the Sponsorship of partner form at all but their have the Status of the files "Received" tho But the files their received for the sponsor ID document are all in the applicant migration form for person 2, where the box below those heading for person 2.

it listed all the document ID files i have upload so far to them. just very very confusing the system lol

But thank you for taking your time to clear this up for us coz what we got told by a MARA agent was, as a sponsor you dont upload anything to the applicant form once you paid. You upload all your sponsor documentation to the Sponsorship of a partner form instead. so thats probably why we panic that we messed up....but guess by reading from what your saying.

its correct that the applicant migrate by a partner form has 2 option to chose the person with their own heading to upload, then you get to pick all those category and description detail and chose the file t upload and their even display it in the bottom box what file you have uploaded to them with the date of upload which was good.

so that leaves us with Police Check for Thai and Aus for the applicant since you mention to me as sponsor i dont need to do either of them and not even the medical either since no child was included. but we always thought, Police check and Medical have 12 month expiry thats why we holding it off now till maybe April? we will start apply and lodge the rest of the checks in. we saw a heading regard to provide a receipt for "Intention to apply for character or something" the ? circle state when we clicked on, is a receipt for applying police check....so.. yeh just really confuse...

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Hi Crolla - the reason those upload items are listed both places is that you can upload them EITHER place. Either under the applicant's application, or the sponsor's. It makes NOT ONE BIT of difference which application you upload them under. Either way, they'll see them! You're doing great!

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Old 02-19-2015, 04:56 AM
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And yes, you're correct - you can and should wait to provide police checks. Find out how much time Thai police checks take, if you can. If they're relatively quick, I would definitely wait for the CO to ask. If they take 3-4 months, then I'd hold off for a few months and go ahead and get them done then. And with the medical - yes, wait til the CO asks.

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oh my god! Thank you so so so much Mish and CG!

we never though the immi online account can be so different that we could imagine even based our evidence on the document checklist on the immi website. Lucky we know how to work a computer so at least its pretty straight forward.

and we are glad we are on the right track now. we just wasn't sure when we saw the heading pop up on the applicant form with person 2 where i can upload than the whole confusing with the sponsorship form with heading to upload as well hahaha. So glad that confusion part is over. lol

In regards to PC for both country. We rang our local police station, they told us that it will take about 10 business day for the Aus one, then Thailand we not sure at this stage, but for the fingerprint we need to go in to our local police station to have a set done and send it off ourself to Thailand guess we will give the Thailand Police station a ring to check.

Just want to ask tho
1. you know since i remember Engaus mention about how once everything is submitted through. lets said in 1 week time, we have more evidence, i know based on what i read on this forum, the immi made decision on the lodgement evidence not the additional submitted evidence. would it sitll be alright to upload more? coz we still waiting for our new 6 months lease and i have a credit card joining appointment as well to start one with my wife so we can use this time, to build up a Credit score so when everything is over we will have a stronger relationship with the bank rather than just use our debit card all the time. do you think we can submit this as a proof later down the track maybe in few weeks time?? or its not necessary? coz i dont want the immi to get us wrong like we went and apply for credit card for the sake of visa. Personally, i never own a credit card myself so this is my first time lol kinda exicited so yeah..

2. with the police check receipt, we saw on of the heading on there asking for this? is this the receipt as soon you start to apply for it both country police check you upload it then? so we can skip this heading for now?

3. you know how the immi was saying their will assess the case based on the 4 category. What happen if we chose majority of our evidence for example

Majority are nature of commitment but can also be evidence of relationship or can be nature of house hold? like does it matter? we dont want it to be like we chose the wrong category for our evidence, and we get owned later for not fufill meeting the 4 category their looking for? even tho our evidence can be flexible and we dont want to double upload everything to ensure it meet the actual category coz some of the headings can be apply for other heading as well ..hope u get what i mean?


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Hello CG,

Just want to update something, got a called from one of my wife mara agent who helped her before. She mention to us that since we are married now. Our evidence is actually no need to provide the time frame of 12 months. It just need to proof your marriage is genuine? Coz what we provided was dated before we were marry till we are married now ... Is this okay?


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1) It's fine to keep uploading, but they will really only be PRIMARILY counting evidence that is from the time before you applied. So if there's like a bank statement from the time period before you applied, and you didn't get it until after you applied, you could absolutely upload it and they'd fully count it. But if it's from, like, next month and you upload it next month, it won't carry as much (if any) weight at all. Does that make sense? Not sure if I made it confusing.

That said, either way - you CAN still keep uploading evidence. It won't hurt anything. If they get annoyed, they'll just email you and say "we're satisfied with your relationship. We don't need any more evidence." lol.

2) That's really for if your CO asks for you to upload your police check within 28 days, and you can't get it that fast, so you're showing them a receipt that you've applied for the police check and are waiting on it. You CAN upload the receipt for the police check when you've applied for it, but you don't HAVE to unless the CO has already requested the police checks at that time.

3) Doesn't matter! As long as you HAVE evidence adequately covering all four categories, you'll be fine. Like you said, some pieces of evidence count for more than one category - they're not going to blast you for not having financial evidence, just because you uploaded your bank statements under "evidence of shared address" or whatever. They'll consider it under all categories it applies to.

4) Yes, it's correct that marrying waives the 12 month requirement. You still need the same evidence in all four categories, preferably for 6 months or longer, but it doesn't have to add up to 12 months total if you're married. That's the only difference.

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1) It's fine to keep uploading, but they will really only be PRIMARILY counting evidence that is from the time before you applied. So if there's like a bank statement from the time period before you applied, and you didn't get it until after you applied, you could absolutely upload it and they'd fully count it. But if it's from, like, next month and you upload it next month, it won't carry as much (if any) weight at all. Does that make sense? Not sure if I made it confusing.

That said, either way - you CAN still keep uploading evidence. It won't hurt anything. If they get annoyed, they'll just email you and say "we're satisfied with your relationship. We don't need any more evidence." lol.
Oh alright, well we just finished our uploading. Total files of just below 60. However we fee like we don't have enough but then again we do cover all the category their asking for. Just worry because we don't any assets and only just have a appointment for credit card joining soon this following Monday. We only got married back in August last year, now only just beginning starting to build our life. Getting a pet etc later down the track. Maybe end of the year start to move to a unfurnished place so we can start to buy our own appliances etc u know lol

So correct me if I'm wrong! Lol does that mean Tmr is my wife's birthday. I have plans and gifts for her etc I can't submit photo of us etc receipt of gifts and This months bank statement doesn't arrive till march so I shouldn't bother to upload them as evidence to evidence of continue relationship heading ? Since our application has already been lodged??

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2) That's really for if your CO asks for you to upload your police check within 28 days, and you can't get it that fast, so you're showing them a receipt that you've applied for the police check and are waiting on it. You CAN upload the receipt for the police check when you've applied for it, but you don't HAVE to unless the CO has already requested the police checks at that time.
Thanks for clarifying this information for us. We shall do this if when find out about the Thai police check if it does take longer than it expected. Lol

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3) Doesn't matter! As long as you HAVE evidence adequately covering all four categories, you'll be fine. Like you said, some pieces of evidence count for more than one category - they're not going to blast you for not having financial evidence, just because you uploaded your bank statements under "evidence of shared address" or whatever. They'll consider it under all categories it applies to.
Hahha okay yeah coz what happen is, on those listing. It still has like photograph - other heading. Showing "recommended" but we already upload 3 parts of ours photograph to social photograph lol same goes with other headings as well but yeah we didn't use the link on the headings where it said attach document instead we use the upload function on the top right corner instead where you chose your name and category and description and files more easier I think

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4) Yes, it's correct that marrying waives the 12 month requirement. You still need the same evidence in all four categories, preferably for 6 months or longer, but it doesn't have to add up to 12 months total if you're married. That's the only difference.
Oh okay sweet. Guess we will be alright then we still cover our evidences over from 2013 till today lol.


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You'll be fine! You CAN continue to upload evidence if you want to. It certainly won't hurt anything. They'll let you know if you're annoying them (nicely), haha.

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