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Old 03-01-2015, 03:37 AM
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Applying for 820/801 in less than two weeks! online issue?

Hello everyone, this is my first time using this forum, I felt it to be one of the most resourceful places relating to partner visas so I couldn't help but come running for some potential help! you've made it this far so here goes my plea!

My names Michael, I was born and raised in the uk. I came to Melbourne in 2011 on a working holiday visa, I also extended that and then half way through the visa i opted to study here, so I applied for my student visa.

That is the jist of my visa situation, now i have been with my Australian partner for just under 12 months, one of my current issues is that the online application doesn't take into account that by the time I am ready to submit it, it will be beyond the 1 year period.

This is really worrying me as my student visa expires on the 15th of march, and I have only recently found out that im eligible for the partner visa, we both want to stay here and we don't want to make the decision to both leave this amazing place.

I thank you sincerely for taking the time to read this far,

Michael.

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If you're not going to submit the application until AFTER you hit 12 months of living together (at least a day after, to be safe, if you can), I would go ahead and tick that yes, you've been living together for 12 months, as that will be true when you submit.

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Thank you!

I've been reading countless posts from you and I respect and admire the effort you've made to help people, you're great!

I have a few other issues, I'll try and talk to them on the phone about it when they call me back; me and my partner never registered our names on a centrelink form as in a relationship, I was unsure of the legalities behind making a statement to a government authority knowing that I didn't have a permanent visa.

Do you think it would be possible for me to ask centrelink to backdate it, or at least note in my application that we have attempted to make amendments?

I'm worried it will look very suspicious, organizing this whole application in two weeks seems quick, but I already had police checks etc because I was originally planning on a Child visa (under 25) maybe a cover letter would suffice?

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Unless I've misunderstood but if you ask centrelink to backdate your relationship it may raise a debt with your partner if she has been receiving payments and you have been working. Possibly though. As centrelink did not deduct my payments until I had been in a defacto for more than 12 months. But everyone is different. Not sure?


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Hi Michael,

Check if you can register your relationship. I am new to these forums, but it seems this is acceptable at any point and will strengthen your application.

Relationship Declaration Register - City of Melbourne

You probably are reading the forums on how to prepare the 820/801 application. There are a lot of examples there and you can compare the type of evidence you have and what others submitted.

Usually people get the Bridging visa A as an automated reply upon lodgement of the application. (I did)

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Unless I've misunderstood but if you ask centrelink to backdate your relationship it may raise a debt with your partner if she has been receiving payments and you have been working. Possibly though. As centrelink did not deduct my payments until I had been in a defacto for more than 12 months. But everyone is different. Not sure?
Thanks for your reply!

You seem to be on the right track, if need be we can get debts paid off.

I was working for a short period of time late last year, but she hadn't applied for the rent assistance until after I had stopped:

- I stopped working November.
- Applied for rent assistance in early January
- Partner Started a new full time job in early February


I'm hoping that it's judged on whether or not the service had been abused.

I'll post any updates on the situation!


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Hi Michael,

Check if you can register your relationship. I am new to these forums, but it seems this is acceptable at any point and will strengthen your application.

You probably are reading the forums on how to prepare the 820/801 application. There are a lot of examples there and you can compare the type of evidence you have and what others submitted.

Usually people get the Bridging visa A as an automated reply upon lodgement of the application. (I did)

Good luck
Thank you for that link, I was unaware that the bridging visa A could be automatically granted.

I was told that if a try to get an official deferral from my university then I won't be forced into applying for a BVE when my Student visa expires, this is because I wouldn't be breaching the conditions anymore,(Apparently). I should find out tomorrow when I contact the university.

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Yep. UK is a low risk country and you shouldn't have prob. As I understand it , it mimics your previous substantial visa conditions. BVA should allow you to work and study if your current visa does.

Depending on how confident you are that you can put together your evidence soon, you can submit an application and start uploading evidence as you go. I remember reading other posts where those that have better insight say you can upload your evidence gradually in 2- 4 weeks. You still need to look back on forums and see what others said and if that is ok for you. Look for CollegeGirl and Mish and other moderators.

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Yep. UK is a low risk country and you shouldn't have prob. As I understand it , it mimics your previous substantial visa conditions. BVA should allow you to work and study if your current visa does.
This is typically true, but is not true with partner visas, and hasn't been true for at least a couple of years now. When you apply for an 820 from a substantive visa (like a tourist visa or student visa) you are given a Bridging Visa A. This BVA automatically gives you full work rights & study rights, regardless of the conditions of the visa you were on previously. Of course, the BVA does not kick in until the previous visa expires on its own (or, if it's a tourist visa with a max 3-month stay, until your current three-month stay on it expires).

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Depending on how confident you are that you can put together your evidence soon, you can submit an application and start uploading evidence as you go. I remember reading other posts where those that have better insight say you can upload your evidence gradually in 2- 4 weeks. You still need to look back on forums and see what others said and if that is ok for you. Look for CollegeGirl and Mish and other moderators.
While one or two embassies have recommended offshore applicants take more than 28 days, Mark Northam has said in a post here that he recommends you not take more than 2 weeks to upload. Immi have the right to look at your documentation at any time after you apply and make a decision on what you've already supplied, so you don't want to take TOO long, just in case. Better safe than sorry.

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Thanks for your reply!

You seem to be on the right track, if need be we can get debts paid off.

I was working for a short period of time late last year, but she hadn't applied for the rent assistance until after I had stopped:

- I stopped working November.
- Applied for rent assistance in early January
- Partner Started a new full time job in early February


I'm hoping that it's judged on whether or not the service had been abused.

I'll post any updates on the situation!




Thank you for that link, I was unaware that the bridging visa A could be automatically granted.

I was told that if a try to get an official deferral from my university then I won't be forced into applying for a BVE when my Student visa expires, this is because I wouldn't be breaching the conditions anymore,(Apparently). I should find out tomorrow when I contact the university.
I think you're confused. If your student visa is EXPIRING, this is a GOOD thing! As long as you apply for your Partner Visa before your student visa expires, you don't have to worry about Bridging Visa E at all. People who CANCEL their student visas after applying for the Partner Visa end up on Bridging Visa E. If yours expires after you apply for the Partner Visa & have been granted a BVA (as said above, typically this happens automatically and right away), you'll be on the BVA. You don't have to defer your studies or anything - you're not required to study at all while on the BVA or your Partner Visa, though you do have the ability to study as much as you WANT to.

PLEASE post back if you're still confused about this.

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Visa #1: PMV (300) through Washington, D.C
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Visa Granted: January 2014.
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Visa Granted: Early July 2014.
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Hi Michael,

Check if you can register your relationship. I am new to these forums, but it seems this is acceptable at any point and will strengthen your application.

Relationship Declaration Register - City of Melbourne

You probably are reading the forums on how to prepare the 820/801 application. There are a lot of examples there and you can compare the type of evidence you have and what others submitted.

Usually people get the Bridging visa A as an automated reply upon lodgement of the application. (I did)

Good luck
If you're registering a relationship in order to waive the requirement for 12 months living together, then it needs to be done through the state's Births Deaths & Marriages department. A city council registration will not be sufficient. It may be fine as an additional piece of relationship evidence though.

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