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Old 10-30-2011, 10:55 AM
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PMV advice

Hi there,
Hoping for some advice on my direction here .. whether to got he PMV way, or maybe recommendations on the de facto path. Oh and feel free to correct anything I've said wrong here, you guys know only too well how confusing this can be, so I realise I could be way off! Thanks in advance!

First, the facts ..
I'm an Aust citizen, living in London for 8yrs, just got my British passport recently. My fiancee is from Czech, lived in London for 5yrs, has CZ passport, so is considered High Risk . We have been together and totally inseparable for 17months and lived together for 9months in London (2 of those spent travelling together in Aust, and another 2 we spent apart : while I was in Aust when my father passed away, she stayed in London). We got engaged in Rome in mid-Sept 2011. We've every plan to marry when we can, and are very keen to move to Aust to start a family. Just not sure on the best/easiest/cheapest/most suitable option .. which is why I'm hoping to tap into your resources!

I've done considerable amounts of research on the immi site, have read the forms and consdiered various options. It seems de facto could be notoriously complicated and 'annoying' with all the proof of relationship and joint assets etc .. we've bills in both names, joint bank account, we pay gym memberships together, have photos, love letters, emails, txts, my parents love her to bits and are willing to write stat dec's, I / my family are willing to sponsor her financially (although she is fully capable of supporting herself),.

But it just seems the PMV would be 'easier'... if that makes sense. I've heard the PMV can be processed quite quickly, certainly faster than the offshore partner so if she got PMV granted, we'd move to Aust, marry, apply for 820/801 .. obviously we'd need to supply some evidence then of our relationship history, but at that stage with the marriage done under the PMV, that would be easier to prove, am I right by saying that?

It seems PMV is a pretty straightforward approach.. not a great deal of verification/proof required initially for it to be granted (which isnt a prob in itself, mind you, just am realising it may be simpler than the de facto route?)

1) If we're living in London together when she applies for the PMV, is that OK? I dont have to be in Aust when she applies apply do I, or do they only care that she is outisde AU when she applies?

2) For PMV we complete 47SP and 40SP (and complete PMV relevant areas only) .. then once granted and we're married in Aust we then fill out the same forms again for the 820/801 onshore partner visa (but just select/tick the areas that are now relevant to the onshore sections), is that correct? Just wanted to clarify about it being same forms, but completed differently each time.

3) To confirm costs : $1995 for PMV, then once granted a second payment of $965 for the 802/801 onshore partner visa? (total 2965)
BUT if we just do the Offshore partner visa 309/100 its just one payment of $1995?

I think that's all I can remember for now .. I appreciate your time reading, and look fwd to responses. Which will no doubt lead to more questions .. but hopefully eventually a solution and clarity!!

Many thanks.


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Old 10-31-2011, 02:13 AM
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Hi swampy,

Since you've done quite alot of research, just need to confirm, I'd give quite short answer,
1. Yes, it's ok. Only the visa applicant needs to be offshore, the sponsor doesn't have to be in Au.
2. Yes.
3. Exactly.

The processing time for partner visas (PMV/ spouse/ de facto) offshore should be all the same depends on the countries (VN - high risk - is 8 months). Regardless to what partner visa you're applying, as your papers are well prepared, the visa should be granted in shorter time.

Cheers,


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Old 10-31-2011, 03:59 AM
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Hi there,

Good on you for the research, you seemed to have understood the procedure well. Dusty's info is correct too. You're right to say that the PMV is possibly a more simple application, but keep in mind you'd have to organise a wedding date and get in touch with a celebrant in order to write up the NOIM (notice of inteneded marriage) - which can be hard if one of you is not in Australia.

The reason why the PMV requires less evidence is:
1 - you only need to have met your partner in person once (so it's easy to get evidence for couples like you that've been together for a long time)
2 - you're going to end up providing that evidence when you lodge for the partner visa anyway

I think no matter what you end up chosing (PMV+partner or simply de facto), you'll be fine. Applying de facto offshore will save you the most money - so if $1,000 means a lot to you, I'd go for that.

Personally I think if you're going to do PMV it would be annoying to try to organise the NOIM from outside Australia (someone please correct me if I'm wrong or if they actually have done the NOIM from overseas).


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Old 10-31-2011, 09:12 PM
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hi SarahM

The NOIM is a piece of cake to do -- easy! You complete it yourself (not the celebrant), and the only difference is that if you are overseas you have to get it witnessed at an Australian embassy/consulate rather than just a local JP. My partner & I had ours witnessed while we were on holiday travelling OS. After its complete & has been witnessed, you give it to the celebrant.

It really shouldn't be too hard to get a celebrant to write the letter either -- swampy would just need to pay a deposit to the celebrant to set the day (which can be changed later, no problem). Swampy could get one of his family or friends to go around & meet a couple celebrants while he's overseas.

Cheers.


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Hi there,

You're right to say that the PMV is possibly a more simple application, but keep in mind you'd have to organise a wedding date and get in touch with a celebrant in order to write up the NOIM (notice of inteneded marriage) - which can be hard if one of you is not in Australia.

Personally I think if you're going to do PMV it would be annoying to try to organise the NOIM from outside Australia (someone please correct me if I'm wrong or if they actually have done the NOIM from overseas).

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