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Old 03-28-2015, 02:36 PM
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Thanks a lot liferiver. I am based out of Australia and have applied for temp work visa 457.

I will fly to Australia only after 3 mnths. I think it will be beneficial to get police clearance certificate from my home country police.

Then i can apply for AFP certificate after i land in Australia.

Just one more quick question. For how long is the certificate valid? Does it have a validity period like ielts scores?

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I'm appreciating this info as well; it's hellish dealing with all of this. I still don't understand why the "official" Immi checklist, on the government site, has health insurance listed if it's not necessary.


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Old 03-28-2015, 10:51 PM
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I still don't understand why the "official" Immi checklist, on the government site, has health insurance listed if it's not necessary.
the DIBP website is notorious for out of date information - processing times often don't get updated to reflect the reality either...Very annoying but unfortunately true...

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I'm appreciating this info as well; it's hellish dealing with all of this. I still don't understand why the "official" Immi checklist, on the government site, has health insurance listed if it's not necessary.
That's why migration agents do not rely on information on the Immi website, but refer to the actual regulations and advice from their professional organisations instead.

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I'm appreciating this info as well; it's hellish dealing with all of this. I still don't understand why the "official" Immi checklist, on the government site, has health insurance listed if it's not necessary.
There is nothing sinister about the misinformation across the range of DIBP publications, it is mostly due to ordinary incompetence. Note their disclaimers.

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There is nothing sinister about the misinformation across the range of DIBP publications, it is mostly due to ordinary incompetence. Note their disclaimers.
When we were still allowed to lodge applications in person, I often listened in amazement to the incorrect or incomplete "advice" provided by counter staff.

Even more amazing were applicants hogging the counter and insisting that staff would help them with their applications there and then, while a room full of people were waiting their turn.

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When we were still allowed to lodge applications in person, I often listened in amazement to the incorrect or incomplete "advice" provided by counter staff.

Even more amazing were applicants hogging the counter and insisting that staff would help them with their applications there and then, while a room full of people were waiting their turn.
The problem I see is that the counter staff and phone staff are usually only APS3's with no technical knowledge where the community expect them to be able to help them with their visa application.

It is like ... would you expect the ATO to help you with your tax return?

The thing that surprises me is that people don't have issues using a taxation agent for their taxes but don't seem to want to use a migration agent for their immigration purposes *sigh*.

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The problem I see is that the counter staff and phone staff are usually only APS3's with no technical knowledge where the community expect them to be able to help them with their visa application.

It is like ... would you expect the ATO to help you with your tax return?

The thing that surprises me is that people don't have issues using a taxation agent for their taxes but don't seem to want to use a migration agent for their immigration purposes *sigh*.
Your analogy with the ATO is a good one and I have often used it to explain my position.I could do my own tax returns as well, if I wanted to spend the time to do the research and check the latest rules. I find that I am better off leaving it to a pro. Their fee is worth the time and money they end up saving me.

I certainly don't expect an accountant to provide me with free detailed advice by email or over the phone, let alone the Tax Office.

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Just one more quick question. For how long is the certificate valid? Does it have a validity period like ielts scores?

Thanks again for the information
Think unlike health checks and ielts which have a more ongoing effect, police checks are more of question of facts as off the time the request was made.

The certificate is "valid" until the date stated in the certificate. It means as off that date, your character status is whatever it's stated in the certiicate. It's like a snapshot. Anything after the date, individual's character may have changed. So in a sense, you certificate is not valid after that date.

I think as long as you do not have a more than 1 year limbo gap between, your overseas police check and AFP police check, you'll be fine.

I think 1 year in prison (in prison or sentenced in prison), is the minimum period DIBP deemed as "not good" character. You can read about this: Fact Sheet 79 €“ The character requirements

So just make sure you do not have too big a gap between your checks and the gap do not exceed 12 months.

It's a good idea to get the overseas check while you're in your home country. I did that too. But mine required a letter from DIBP stating I have applied for partner visa, before they will issue a police check.

Again, I'm not agent, it's all logical deductions and guesses.


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