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Old 05-12-2015, 04:54 AM
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Extra evidence for MRT??

Hi all,

I am wondering about what sorts of things can be submitted as extra evidence for the mrt we are about to lodge. We are doing this ourselves as we simply cannot afford a migration agent this time. We used one for the first and second stages for my husband's PR, but finances prevent us being able to pay for now.

A bit about our story..... my Punjabi husband and I have been married and living in Toowoomba, Qld for a little over 3 years now, and have just been denied his PR visa as the CO at IDBP did not believe that our relationship was genuine, mainly due to the fact that my husband's family apparently do not know enough about our relationship which according to IDBP was suspicious. His family still live in India and we have not yet been able to afford to travel together to visit with them. Our CO at IDBP did not seem to take into consideration the mountain of other evidence, statements and stat decs from friends, my family, co-workers and even neighbours all describing our relationship, and has essentially called us liars, which is really quite hurtful.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 05-12-2015, 08:29 AM
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Hi Laeyla, I m sorry to hear about ur visa refusal. Was it second stage 801 visa?
Did they interview ur partner's family?


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I applied for partner visa as well. Did u guys supply any stat decs from family in India?


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Hi Laeyla, I m sorry to hear about ur visa refusal. Was it second stage 801 visa?
Did they interview ur partner's family?
Yeah she said its for the PR stage, which is the 801. It looks like DIBP is taking the visa scam thingy to the next level.


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Old 05-12-2015, 09:52 AM
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Yeah she said its for the PR stage, which is the 801. It looks like DIBP is taking the visa scam thingy to the next level.
Thanks Aria for pointing out this. I fully support DIBP decision to investigate all the applicants if they have any concerns.
But sometime I wonder about DIBP capability to understand the differences among foreign cultures.


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I am sorry about your refusal. This is the 2nd Indian at PR that we have seen on this forum refused recently.

You can provide anything that shows you are genuine. Even by getting more statements will help. Just bombard them with everything.


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Yes we supplied affidavits from them during the first stage to Immigration which said that they welcomed me willingly into the family and that they were happy that their son had found someone whom he wanted to spend his life with. During the second stage officials visited them at home in India to interview them, but as my in-laws are poorly educated and illiterate they became confused and gave some conflicting responses to the questions asked. This was apparently enough for IDBP to deny my husband's visa despite all the other evidence that we submitted to them.


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Wow! This story is very similar to the other one that was rejected. They also had a home visit in India.

It is sad how some bad ones ruin it for everyone else

Have you supplied things like wills and super beneficiary before?

Also MRT is also a chance for them to determine the original case officer made a mistake. It would be worth getting additional statements from his family from India explaining what happened when interviewed.


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Have you supplied things like wills and super beneficiary before?
To be honest we haven't written up wills yet...hadn't even thought about it, and the super beneficiary hadn't even occurred to me as evidence. Thanks for the suggestion

We are planning on getting more statements from his family to explain what happened, we have not told them yet as they will be very upset about being the cause for his denial


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Hi Laeyla
I'm so sorry that the 801 has been refused I really feel for you my husband is also Punjabi and we were refused at the 820 stage but successfully applied and won our MRT recently. If you have just applied for MRT recently you have a while to compile your further evidence. We submitted a heap of evidence more or less everything we did as a couple... Every outing, bank statement, every purchase, every possible thing that demonstrated our real life. I agree with Daveena sometimes they just don't understand the difficulties and differences in culture. My husband's family are also a simple farming family... Not highly educated, live in a small bill also don't really understand the complexities of the immigration department.

I speak only a little Punjabi and they speak even less English but we managed to chat occasionally with my husband translating for me.

They also supplied an affidavit about their happiness and acceptance of our relationship and they send greeting cards for special occasions like birthdays and anniversaries and so on. If they have sent you gifts or letters you could used this as showing their acceptance.
I know it's hard to afford a lawyer we used one for our initial application which we feel contributed to our refusal but because we had Schedule 3 and perhaps a little complicated case we engaged Mark Northam (an agent on this forum) for our MRT...but if you really cant afford an agent I would really recommend you at least run your refusal letter past one of the agents here and perhaps pay for an agent to check your final submission so that at least you will know if you have included enough and that it addresses specifically the reasons they have refused it... It would be devastating if you lost the MRT and had to reapply especially now the fees are rising again. It would be money well spent in the long run. Mark was very reasonably priced... Less than our original agent who did next to nothing for the initial application.

Anyway wishing you the best and feel free to ask any more questions.

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