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Old 08-12-2015, 11:37 AM
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We had our application refused and we used a large immigration firm... the lawyer allocated to us was hopeless... Doesn't mean all lawyers at that firm are bad... However you would wonder if certain practices of that firm (at the time) lead to our refusal since everything had to be "signed of" on by the director of the firm. I research this firm and had heard nothing but good things... To give you an idea of how bad the advice (or lack thereof)... My hubby was subject to schedule 3 however we did not even know this (or really have any idea what it meant) until months after the refusal and we'd already applied for MRT and had Mark Northam go over the refusal letter... Mark was the first person to explain what that meant for us... We did not have any discussions with our previous agent about that rule and it was absolutely devastating because had we known we may have done things much differently... We did go on to win our MRT because Mark is very knowledgeable and experienced in the area of sch 3 not all agents are equal even if they are Mara registered.. Just my opinion

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Thanks for the advice guys, but I'm looking for couples who've had their application turned down after using a lawyer. Don't know how successful I'll be on this app, but putting the question out there anyway.

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i used a lawyer, paid him 4,000 aud on top of the 3,085 aud fee. he told us that despite us not meeting the 12 month requirement of livng together , that we would be fine, he argued successfully for lots of cases blah blah blah.
we got rejected . then i came here and the amount of knowledge i have garnered from this place is worth a million of this lawyer.
he is meant to be very successful in litigation, land, divorce cases etc. when it came to immigration, i may as well have done it myself. in hindsight i would have used one of the guys on here but second time around we did it ourselves as i had built up the knowledge more or less.

for first time around , i would suggest hitting up one of the guys/ladies on here

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You're looking for couples whose application got refused because they used a lawyer rather than a migration agent? Why ? What do you hope to gain by that?
To see if it's actually worth spending the extra money on a lawyer specialising in immigration matters rather than simply a migration agent. I've been advised by a friend to use a lawyer.


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To see if it's actually worth spending the extra money on a lawyer specialising in immigration matters rather than simply a migration agent. I've been advised by a friend to use a lawyer.
In the U.S. people hire immigration lawyers almost for all cases.

In Australia immigration agents can assist you in preparing and lodge your visa application. I wouldn't use lawyers if your case is straight forward and not up for court cases.


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To see if it's actually worth spending the extra money on a lawyer specialising in immigration matters rather than simply a migration agent. I've been advised by a friend to use a lawyer.
A good migration agent is all that you need.

The problem is that alot of people think you need a lawyer when infact an agent is the better option.

Some countries overseas they use lawyers for immigration matters and don't even know that agents exist.


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To see if it's actually worth spending the extra money on a lawyer specialising in immigration matters rather than simply a migration agent. I've been advised by a friend to use a lawyer.
Why did your friend advise you to do this ? Does he have any personal knowledge of the immigration process and why a lawyer would be better equipped to deal with it?

I mean, you could use a QC to do it for you, but unless you have a particularly complicated case, why would you?

The main thing is to use someone, lawyer or migration agent, you feel comfortable with and who provides the sort of services you require.

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Unless there is a legal issue for which a RMA cannot represent you, it is almost always better and less expensive to engage the services of a RMA rather than a lawyer.

If there are legal issues that will have to go to a federal court (on a point of law) and an applicant needs the services of a lawyer for this, it is perhaps a good idea to select one who is also a RMA.

I have discussed several serious migration issues with senior lawyers who were also RMAs and their opinions were invariably wrong.

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I think one of the main differences is that lawyers tend to make things more complicated than they need to be and are quite happy to argue all sort of legal points ( at your expense) as the adversary approach comes natural to them.

Migration agents tend to choose the most practical way to get a good outcome rather than trying to score some unnecessary legal victory.

It is a fundamentally different approach.

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I often wonder how some LAWYERS can actually turn off their conscience so they can sleep at night..


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I often wonder how some LAWYERS can actually turn off their conscience so they can sleep at night..
Q: How does a lawyer sleep at night?
A: First he lies on one side, then he lies on the other.

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