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Rate our de facto evidence list [309/100, moving from Japan]


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Old 09-05-2015, 05:18 AM
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Rate our de facto evidence list [309/100, moving from Japan]

If there is a thread for specifically this purpose, let me know please and I'll move this.

A couple of things to note: Japan is super cash-based. The only automatic payments I have are rent, phone, and gym. So things like gas, water, electricity, everything, all come as paper bills that you take to a convenience store and pay in cash. Which means there's actually very little to show who paid for what. Also, my girlfriend is not on the rent agreement, because it can only be in one person's name. It's basically "my name plus one".
  • D = Me. UK citizen, living in Japan
  • N = Girlfriend. Aus citizen, living with me in Japan (we met in Japan, dated for 9 months or so, then moved in together 3 years ago when she got a new job)
  • Baby E = N's brother's baby (ie. we don't have kids)

Here's the current list: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2s...ew?usp=sharing

Hopefully you'll all be able to load that. I'll keep this thread up to date with the latest version if and when I make changes to the evidence list, to help future folks who might be in a similar situation.

Another quick question: does literally everything have to be professionally translated? Even if it's clearly a bank statement and we're circling one withdrawal?


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I know that you mean about cash! Egypt is very cash oriented - I am a credit card person and only get cash for the snack machine at work lol.

In regards to your evidence. You mention paper bills for electricity etc did these come in both your names or only one? Did you get out the exact amount from the ATM? You can then highlight the withdrawal on the statement.

Wih your holidays have you got copies of the boarding passes and accommodation receipts too?

You also include any mail that is addressed to both of you at the same address. It can either be joint mail or mail in individual names.

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I know that you mean about cash! Egypt is very cash oriented - I am a credit card person and only get cash for the snack machine at work lol.

In regards to your evidence. You mention paper bills for electricity etc did these come in both your names or only one? Did you get out the exact amount from the ATM? You can then highlight the withdrawal on the statement.

Wih your holidays have you got copies of the boarding passes and accommodation receipts too?

You also include any mail that is addressed to both of you at the same address. It can either be joint mail or mail in individual names.
Yes! I'd much prefer to do *everything* with a card if I could, but it's just not the way people operate here.

The bills are all in my name, because they were set up at the same time as signing the rent contract. I doubt she ever takes the exact amount out, she'll just round up and take some extra to have in her pocket. We should probably still include it though, right? "On this day N took out $800, and here is a tax bill receipt for $750, paid on the same day" still looks pretty conclusive... right?

She doesn't even have the kind of bank card that you can use in shops, otherwise I'd suggest that she pays this month's bill using that. Then we'd at least have one piece of that kind of evidence.

I'll ask if she has any other little things left over from travelling.

Does screenshotting emails/websites/Facebook work as legit evidence, or is it discounted immediately due to being easily Photoshoppable?


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Facebook etc is good for the social side and showing evidence of contact while apart but in regards to establishing the de facto relationship it won't help ... sorry.

If the amounts are roughly what the bills are that can help. You can write in your statements about it all.

I imagine with it being processed in Japan they would be family with the local procedures.

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