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Old 06-19-2012, 12:51 PM
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Hi all,

First time poster, just found this great forum google searching on what to do with my current situation.

I am a long term staying NZ'er in Australia - almost 13 years now, and have a fiance from Brazil, we have been in a relationship for almost 2 years, and hope to marry this year. However we are unsure of which visa to apply for, i have spoken to immigration dept, and the lady suggested 2, the tourist visa and the partner visa. but after reading some things on here, i am unsure of this advice, also for both of these visas requires a large outlay of funds.

Also we are both going crazy, it has been almost a year since we have been together in person and would love to be together as soon as possible!!

I have also seen the mention of people from "high risk" areas, cannot find any info on this - can someone help with explaining this?

Annnnnd, has anyone used a Migration agent for help?

Any advice, help, tips would be very appreciated and look forward to talking with you.

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Hi amor e Fé

Welcome to the forum.

Unfortunately the fees for partner visa are high... and you also need to consider certified copies, translations and medicals. I´d say that you´ll be paying around 2500 AU dollars.

What the immi told you does make sense specially if you want to be with each other during the process. I would suggest you look at the partner booklet and start gathering all the proof you have.
Your fiance can start requesting her birth certificate, police checks, Id from brazil so that when she arrives you just need to deal with minor details and hand in your application.

If you need some more advice feel free to ask. There are many helpful people here to help

all the best

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Hi rufa,

thanks for your reply, so he can apply for the PMV here in australia? I thought he had to lodge them both offshore

yeah there is a lot of information to collect, but i think we both have it all already


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Hi rufa,

thanks for your reply, so he can apply for the PMV here in australia? I thought he had to lodge them both offshore

yeah there is a lot of information to collect, but i think we both have it all already
Are you going for the partner visa or the prospective visa marriage one?

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I really don't understand these advices from immigration departments. They say something to someone and then something totally opposite to somebody else... I was under impression that it's not a good idea to fly to Australia on a tourist visa and then apply for a permanent one... that they don't like this.

Anyways, in my opinion prospective marriage visa would be perfect for you. Prospective Marriage Visa (Subclass 300)

Applying for an onshore 820 partner visa is also an option (Partner Visa: Onshore Temporary and Permanent (Subclasses 820 and 801)), but there's a risk involved: the tourist visa may have a certain condition, called No Further Stay and that would prevent your partner to apply for her/his partner visa in Australia.

I don't think you have to worry about coming from a "high risk" country; it's usually the people whose partners come from Egypt, Morocco and similar countries that do experience problems (longer processing times, officers doubt their relationship is genuine etc.).
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You mentioned the funds - unfortunately there's no cheaper option. You only have three options:
- offshore 309 partner visa: $1995
- prospective marriage visa (300): I'm not sure about the price, but I think altogether it costs the same as an onshore 820 partner visa ($2960)
- onshore 820 partner visa: $2960

You could apply for a 309 offshore partner visa, but as a de-facto couple you could have problems with the necessary evidence. It would be better if you were married, but then flying to Brazil just to get married will cost you more at the end than applying for a prospective marriage visa.

In my opinion, prospective marriage visa is a good way for your fiance to come to Australia.

But the way, don't forget to read the Partner Migration booklet, it explains everything you need to know about partner visas: Partner Migration Booklet

Also check this sticky thread: http://www.australiaforum.com/visas-...plication.html

Good luck and all the best!


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from further reading here in this forum, i was thinking the prospective marriage visa is the best, it also seems that mostly the processing times are quite reasonable, so maybe we don't need to apply for the extra tourist visa?


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By the way, in general you don't need a migration agent, you can apply for a partner visa on your own. Read the booklet and in case you don't fulfill all the conditions, then get an advice from a migration agent.


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thanks for your great reply BMA,

yeah the PMV does seem best, as we have not lived together for 12 months as yet.

we have discussed getting married first, but then i have heard that this is unfavorable to the dept of immi to, as they see it as non genuine sometimes?

the booklet is actually quite easy to read, and will use the checklist, is it available in other languages? or does anyone have it in Portuguese?


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thanks for your great reply BMA,

yeah the PMV does seem best, as we have not lived together for 12 months as yet.

we have discussed getting married first, but then i have heard that this is unfavorable to the dept of immi to, as they see it as non genuine sometimes?

the booklet is actually quite easy to read, and will use the checklist, is it available in other languages? or does anyone have it in Portuguese?


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Hi Amor & Fe,

I suggest you read the Partner Migration booklet thoroughly (I can't find a Portuguese version unfortunately), read the sticky threads and then make a decision.

I'm not a migration agent, I don't work in immigration, so I'm not a professional... but in my opinion prospective marriage visa is a nice and simple solution for you. Why complicate things with 820... Besides, processing time for 820 is long and you need a lot of evidence to prove your marriage is not fake...

All the best to you and to your fiance.



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thanks for your great reply BMA,

yeah the PMV does seem best, as we have not lived together for 12 months as yet.

we have discussed getting married first, but then i have heard that this is unfavorable to the dept of immi to, as they see it as non genuine sometimes?

the booklet is actually quite easy to read, and will use the checklist, is it available in other languages? or does anyone have it in Portuguese?


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I think I do. I got a copy for my partner. let me check at home for the portuguese version of it and Ill let you know.

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