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Old 06-24-2012, 12:05 AM
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Hi Guys,

thanks for the help and the information as always, I havent posted alot but I have been reading these forums frequently over the last year or so ever since my partner and I decided to apply for a visa to have her move here.

So first thing is first, My partner: Manami was granted a PMV to move to Australia and Marry me (YAY) so we tied the knot and now that we have done this we have filled out the application for a Partner Visa.

I have heard differing answers (even from dpt of IMMI depending on who you speak to...)
Question: once we apply for the partner visa are we able to then access the 500 hours of free english classes? or do we need to wait the 2 years.. in which case her english would be awesome by then anyway...

I have heard that yes she can, no she can't. etc. etc. I am just very very confused, the information on the IMMI website seems to state that she can access the classes ie. AMEP after applying for the VISA and I have had one of the officers confirm this. I was told by a different IMMI officer that this was not the case.

Clarification needed before my brain explodes please!!!

has anyone gone through something along these lines? and knows the deal?

thanks in advance!


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I'm not sure. From what I know only if she is granted a permanent visa may she be entitled to the 500 hour classes.

Am curious to also hear other opinions as my husband also wants to attend English classes too. ( we're waiting for a permanent visa to be granted)

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it just seems silly waiting 2 years before being able to access the classes that will allow someone to live and work in Australia...

it seems almost like they want us to pay for classes on top of the visa cost. Frustration lol!


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I'm not sure. From what I know only if she is granted a permanent visa may she be entitled to the 500 hour classes.

Am curious to also hear other opinions as my husband also wants to attend English classes too. ( we're waiting for a permanent visa to be granted)
Found this on the immi website. Doesnt answer the question but it does say that temporary visas don't have acess to government funding for tertiary.

http://www.immi.gov.au/migrants/part...rtner/309-100/

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Also found this Ws iate that might give us some answers. I know that skilled migrants attended free classes so hopefully we might get lucky too.

If you Are in OZ ,contact this school and check with them. Let me know what they say

http://www.ames.edu.au/content/certi...x?ciid=CSWEIIM

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Also found this Ws iate that might give us some answers. I know that skilled migrants attended free classes so hopefully we might get lucky too.

If you Are in OZ ,contact this school and check with them. Let me know what they say

Certificate II in Spoken and Written English | NSW AMES
thanks for the help Rufa, both of us are in QLD unfortunately and unable to attend the NSW schools but in regards to the visa.

I believe (and please correct me if i'm wrong, please!! lol) that once you apply for the permanent visa you also apply for the temporary visa and/or bridging visa. while holding this temp visa you would be able to apply for assistance within the AMEP etc. funded courses?


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thanks for the help Rufa, both of us are in QLD unfortunately and unable to attend the NSW schools but in regards to the visa.

I believe (and please correct me if i'm wrong, please!! lol) that once you apply for the permanent visa you also apply for the temporary visa and/or bridging visa. while holding this temp visa you would be able to apply for assistance within the AMEP etc. funded courses?
Just found our answer!

http://www.ames.edu.au/content/conte...egory=Migrants

As I suspected only permanent visas are entitled to the 510 hours... Have a look.

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Just found our answer!

AMEP - Adult Migrant English Program in NSW | NSW AMES

As I suspected only permanent visas are entitled to the 510 hours... Have a look.
the information on the page:
Eligibility

You may be eligible for free English lessons under the AMEP if you:
  • are a newly arrived migrant, refugee or humanitarian entrant from overseas
  • are at least 18 years old
  • have a less than functional level of English
  • arrived in Australia after 1 July 1991
  • are a temporary resident who holds a gazetted visa
  • have been granted permanent residence in Australia since 1 January 1998
  • are aged between 16 and 18 years and unable to attend English classes at
school


it specifies that you must hold a gazetted visa. this would include any temporary visa(as far as I understand) the term gazetted just means that it is a visa recognized by the australian government.

Im just confused, because all this information seems to tell me that she would be eligible to attend classes but have heard different information from many sources. I am going to be speaking to the partner office monday once they are open and trying to get more answers


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Hi guppy and rufa,

During my own searches regarding this before submitting my husband's application, I came across these additional things:

Adult Migrant English Program - Eligibility

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Can I join AMEP English courses?

You may be able to learn English with the AMEP if you hold a permanent visa, have little or no English, and:
  • are an adult (18 years or older)
  • are under 18 years of age and are not attending school. These clients may be eligible within their first 12 months of arrival to Australia)

Access to the AMEP is extended to some temporary visa holders as specified in the legislative instrument for 'English Courses for Holders of Certain Temporary Visas'.

You can study English with the AMEP for up to 510 hours or until you reach functional English, whichever comes first.

You should register for classes within six months of the date your visa commences and start classes within one year. You will have five years to complete classes. These timeframes may be extended in particular circumstances.
Fact Sheet 94 - English Courses for Eligible Migrants and Humanitarian Entrants in Australia

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AMEP eligibility

AMEP eligibility is complex. All clients enquiring on their AMEP eligibility should be referred to an AMEP service provider who can assess clients' eligibility.

All permanent visa holders, 18 years of age and over and who do not have functional English are eligible to access the AMEP and must comply with certain time limits as specified in sections 4C and 4D of the Act (see timeframes below).

Access to the AMEP is extended to some temporary visa holders as specified in the legislative instrument for 'English Courses for Holders of Certain Temporary Visas'.
See: 'English Courses for Holders of Certain Temporary Visas'
These include the following classes of temporary visas:
  • Business Skills (Provisional) (Class UR)
  • Interdependency (Provisional) (Class UG)
  • Partner (Provisional) (Class UF)
  • Partner (Temporary) (Class UK)
  • Resolution of Status (Temporary) (Class UH)
  • Skilled Designated Area-sponsored (Provisional) (class UZ)
  • Skilled Independent Regional (Provisional) (class UX)
  • Skilled Regional Sponsored (Subclass 475)
  • Skilled Regional Sponsored (Subclass 487).

Migrants and humanitarian entrants aged between 15 and 17 years, who do not have functional English and are not attending school may also be eligible for English language courses.
See: Youth classes

AMEP clients 18 years of age and over must:
  • register within six months
  • commence their tuition within 12 months
  • complete their tuition within five years.

Clients under 18 years of age must:
  • register within 12 months
  • commence their tuition within 12 months
  • complete their tuition within five years.

For those clients who registered with the AMEP after 1 January 2011, the time limits above apply from the client's visa commencement date, that is, the first day the person was in Australia on or after the date when a permanent visa or eligible temporary visa held by the person came into effect.

For clients who registered with the AMEP before 1 January 2011, the time limits above apply from 1 January 2011.
And that legislative instrument, 'English Courses for Holders of Certain Temporary Visas', can be found here, but all the information contained therein is already included in the fact sheet above.

When I was writing my sponsor's statement, I added that I knew about this information so my husband could start learning English asap when he arrives, so that I could fulfil my sponsor's obligation of informing my partner about available English classes.

He also added something about diligently studying English, currently and in the future, in his own statement too, somewhere under 'future plans', I think. Can't help but try to be as ingratiating to IMMI as possible!

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All very confusing isn't it?

Timely thread as we want my Fiance in an English class ASAP.


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