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Old 06-29-2012, 03:16 AM
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Oh and for work sponsored visa, there are numerous hoops to jump through for both employer and employee, too many to go into now, most importantly you must have been working or studying in that industry prior to australia.
This was our first priority but finding a sponsor was impossible for our situation


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Old 06-29-2012, 03:23 AM
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Look, Holly it isn't the best thing to be shooting down every suggestion that other people make for you on this forum. You'll end up with nobody responding to your posts because they feel you are ungrateful when they don't give you the advice you are looking for. I know everything that you mention back to front so there is no need to patronise me; I am simply pointing out there are other options.

It is obvious you wanted people to paint rainbows and unicorns and tell you you have heaps of evidence and that you are sooooo obviously in looooove and yes, of course you'll get the green light the moment a CO lays eyes on your application. Well guess what, it isn't as easy or simple as that. We could say it to you but we would be lying.

So I'll do what you want me to do because honestly I'm fed up with this, you're obviously not interested in listening to the reasons why these rules exist or even other people's opinions (usually based on ALOT of experience). So I'll lie. Go for it, I'm sure you'll be granted.


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Old 06-29-2012, 03:38 AM
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Russellie,

I cannot help but wondering what your story is, why you are in this forum.

Following your previous comments in this forum, I have the feeling that you actually dont want anybody to apply for a de facto visa or PMV for some reason. No relationship story is good enough for these visas for you.

Personally, I fully agree with Holly, immigration does not make it easy for you, which is ok, but they also dont leave you with many options!
Holly wasnt attacking you in any way, she just pointed out that most suggestions (she proabably thought about herself already) are just not feasible!
So I think your last post was not at all necessary and inappropriate!

@Holly: I found a school that offers courses for around $3300 for 26weeks, this is enough to bridge the "missing" months for us!


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Old 06-29-2012, 03:41 AM
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No doubt my fault for starting a contentious thread, but im not trying to argue you with you or anyone else, and it certainly wasnt my intention to patronise you. I also wasnt asking for advice. Just talking about MY situation which will be different to everyone elses. And whinging in relation to what seems to me to be an inequality in the governments decision making processes.


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Old 06-29-2012, 03:55 AM
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LanaOZ. I wonder how new members on this forum have the right to question people who give their time to answer questions for people who don't want to pay a migration agent for advice?

Immigration has laws for a reason. There are many options to "get around" these laws, and there are alot of people out there trying to "get around" them. I simply suggest the options so people can work out whether they fit into them or not. But when I offer advice (based on years of experience) I don't expect people to throw it back in my face. A simple "thanks, but we've considered those options and they don't work for us" would suffice. I don't claim to be an expert in every area of immigration law - actually human rights and refugees is my major but I do have sufficient (personal, paid and volunteer) experience in other areas and I try to lend a hand where I can. But I'm not so stupid that I don't know it costs money to study in Australia!!! I don't appreciate people patronising me.

If you don't like the laws of Australian immigration then there are avenues you can take. Whinging about it on a forum isn't one of them (although it might make you feel better in the short term).

Anyway, signing out. Enjoy rainbows and unicorns. I'll limit my advice to people who actually want it.


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Old 06-29-2012, 04:19 AM
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Everyone just chill

@russellie, I have read all post from holly and it's certainly not her intention to offend you in any way(at least that's my understanding) and holly is just trying to have a rant

@holly, russellie has offered a lot of suggestions to you, so a simple thank you will be deemed appropriate to the least

@lalaoz, please spend some time browing what russellie has suggested to different people on this forum, he's very knowledgeable and he's trying to assist not only holly but othere people to the best of his ability

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Old 06-29-2012, 04:49 AM
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Yes definitely feeling like timeout needs to be called happyhero,
Obviously ive offended you somehow russellie so sorry and thanks for the advice given.


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I think the following needs to be said, with all due respect to everyone concerned:

We must remember that this forum (or any such forum on the Internet, for that matter) is likely the only place where Australian visa applicants, for any purpose, are able to speak to people who either have already been through or are currently going though the same procedures and the emotions and concerns that these entail.

I'd be willing to bet that many of us don't have anyone within our immediate circle of friends who is going through the same thing (especially where partner migration is concerned - that's the luck of the draw, really), and so this forum is the only way to find support from, commiserate with, or just discuss the issues at hand with the only like-minded people available to us.

A lot of posters come solely for advice and leave the forum permanently once they receive it - that's their prerogative. A lot of others stay for a while and provide advice or support, and engage in discussion meaningful to them, with people who are experiencing similar emotions or who otherwise have a chance at understanding what they're going through. A unique chance at understanding.

Let's protect this forum as a supportive environment, allowing people not only to seek advice but also to express the varied and complicated emotions that they experience throughout the visa application process. As far as I can see this does not expressly contravene anything in the Terms and Conditions of use.

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Old 06-30-2012, 04:04 AM
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well said adventuress...

have a good one all...

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I think the following needs to be said, with all due respect to everyone concerned:

We must remember that this forum (or any such forum on the Internet, for that matter) is likely the only place where Australian visa applicants, for any purpose, are able to speak to people who either have already been through or are currently going though the same procedures and the emotions and concerns that these entail.

I'd be willing to bet that many of us don't have anyone within our immediate circle of friends who is going through the same thing (especially where partner migration is concerned - that's the luck of the draw, really), and so this forum is the only way to find support from, commiserate with, or just discuss the issues at hand with the only like-minded people available to us.

A lot of posters come solely for advice and leave the forum permanently once they receive it - that's their prerogative. A lot of others stay for a while and provide advice or support, and engage in discussion meaningful to them, with people who are experiencing similar emotions or who otherwise have a chance at understanding what they're going through. A unique chance at understanding.

Let's protect this forum as a supportive environment, allowing people not only to seek advice but also to express the varied and complicated emotions that they experience throughout the visa application process. As far as I can see this does not expressly contravene anything in the Terms and Conditions of use.


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Hey all, Me and my partner are in a registered relationship under NSW law, and before you speak of unfair take a look at our situation:

1. I am from a high risk country, so I was only able to obtain a 6 month tourist visa with a "NFS" condition on it. that was 8 months ago, I arrived in may 2011, only to be with my partner and "try out" living together before we take the leap.

2. we are same sex, and even tho we are engaged now ( I proposed this February, got on one knee with a ring and the whole thing) when we do get married it will mean absolutely NOTHING to the government, we still are going to marry, but the registry is the only choice we have to get the visa since we only lived together for 6 months. is that fair? if we were a straight couple we would be able to get a PMV ans save TONS of time and money.

3. early into my 6 month visit my partner was hit by a car, I was left nursing her back to health on my own, no help from no one, no working rights, she is just a poor student, we got by with no favors, is that fair? bit such is life.

4. we still waited to have a year of evidence, even without living together, while apart, she came to visit, I worked my hands to the bone to pay for her visits (she's a full time student, so no money to spear there), I worked for the visa money, and still managed to send almost half of my monthly income to her, every month, and she supposedly lives in the richer country, does any of that sound fair to you?

the ONLY break we got from the government is the registration in NSW, without it would be almost impossible for us to apply, no marriage rights, no working holiday options, absolutely no PMV (even thou we are engaged to be married next year), she is a full time student 3rd year, she can't just drop everything and leave Australia, so what is a couple like us to do if there was no registration? throw away 3 years of Uni? travel half way across the world for 6 months at a time for the rest of my life? wait for hell to freeze over? we want a family, we want a shared home, we want some stability, just like all of you, is it really fair that we have less options???

You don't see me yelling at all straight and low risk country couples that they have way more options then us and it's not fair? NO! I say THANK YOU NSW for the registration option and go on with my business.
just some food for thought, and good luck to ALL of us.

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