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Old 02-12-2013, 03:56 AM
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Hi !

I'm from France, he's from Australia, and I met him in November 2011 during my first working holiday visa.
We've been in a relationship since April 2012 (six months) and my second working holiday will be valid until November 2013.
After this visa, I definitely want to stay here with him and we're thinking to apply for the partner visa next year so I won't have to go back to France.

I already did lots of research, and the problem could be that we don't want to live together.
I'm actually living at his mother's and he's living at his work and come back for the week end or sometimes during the week.

My question is: How can we prove our relationship without sharing a house, sharing bills, or having our own household etc...?

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Frenchee, don't want to make any assumptions, but are you a female? If so, and if you're willing to marry after you arrive in Australia (but no later than 9 months after), sounds like a Prospective Marriage Visa (subclass 300) might be a better option for you, as Kttykat said.

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So it would waive the 12 months relationship but not the 12 months living together. As we don't really live together (we did for 3 months, as I was able to live with him on his workplace, but he's not paying any rent there), we are not recognised at all as a relationship. We are just considered as boyfriend/girlfriend.

It is getting hard to realise how hard it will be to stay together, my visa ends in 9 months and we feel lost.


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You don't need to be in a relationship for 12 months, I'd been in one for 8 months and registered with NSW BD&Ms and got approved for an 820.

I don't think you need to both be a PR or Citizen to register either.

I do think you need to either prove compassionate grounds why you aren't living together or live together in order to apply though.

If you're a teacher, I would probably go the skilled migrant route.

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So it would waive the 12 months relationship but not the 12 months living together. As we don't really live together (we did for 3 months, as I was able to live with him on his workplace, but he's not paying any rent there), we are not recognised at all as a relationship. We are just considered as boyfriend/girlfriend.

It is getting hard to realise how hard it will be to stay together, my visa ends in 9 months and we feel lost.
Frenchee - what about the Prospective Marriage Visa? Is that not an option? You have to apply for it offshore, so you would have to leave Australia for a while, but you don't have to live together to qualify for this visa. Then, once you've applied for the Prospective Marriage Visa, you can look into possibly getting a tourist visa in order to be with your fiance for at least part of the time while it's processing. Then once your visa was approved, you'd go back to AU and marry within nine months. Is that doable?

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So it would waive the 12 months relationship but not the 12 months living together. As we don't really live together (we did for 3 months, as I was able to live with him on his workplace, but he's not paying any rent there), we are not recognised at all as a relationship. We are just considered as boyfriend/girlfriend.

It is getting hard to realise how hard it will be to stay together, my visa ends in 9 months and we feel lost.
The living together is really important to immigration, they actually ask if you are living separately and apart on a regular basis. If you can prove it is only due to work or study commitments then you still have a chance. The partner visas are not for girlfriend/boyfriend relationships they are for committed couples living together as a household.

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You don't need to be in a relationship for 12 months, I'd been in one for 8 months and registered with NSW BD&Ms and got approved for an 820.

I don't think you need to both be a PR or Citizen to register either.

I do think you need to either prove compassionate grounds why you aren't living together or live together in order to apply though.

If you're a teacher, I would probably go the skilled migrant route.
Coral, whether or not your can register and the circumstances under which you can register are different in each state. NSW has one of the most lenient policies. It's different where the OP is.

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Coral, whether or not your can register and the circumstances under which you can register are different in each state. NSW has one of the most lenient policies. It's different where the OP is.
Yes, in Vic it's the same though I think - it says "you can both prove that you are ordinarily resident in Victoria", not PR or Citizen.

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Yes, in Vic it's the same though I think - it says "you can both prove that you are ordinarily resident in Victoria", not PR or Citizen.
That contradicts what someone else said (twice) on the previous page. I'll have to see if I can find the information somewhere.

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Register a relationship - Births, Deaths & Marriages Victoria

That explains it.

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Yep, I was just looking at the FAQs on that site, here: Relationships FAQs - Births, Deaths & Marriages Victoria

"To be eligible to register your relationship you must be ordinarily resident in Victoria. To establish this, we request that you provide evidence that both parties to the relationship have been living here for at least the last 12 months. However, each application is assessed on its merit."

So... it at least APPEARS to be possible. Maybe someone else will chime in who knows for sure.

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