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Old 06-20-2013, 01:12 PM
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Dear Manjit
I am more than 100% sure that we are characters of same storey. There is not even a single thing different except only 1% information is being provided by you. For your confirmation, I will give the full script of message sent by me on 07.04.2013 at 9.01 am AEST which you were referring to in your earlier post:-

“Hi,
I am not in position to talk over the phone. Please don’t harass me mentally by calling 33 times in 5 minutes. If you have something left to say then please send me a text. Thanks in anticipation of your understanding and appreciation.”

This message (exact wording) was sent after having 2 hours of abusive torcher from you over the phone on previous night when you went on saying that I cannot give father’s love to my daughter because I couldn’t get from my father because he died when I was only 2 years old.

We need to agree on the actual issue first. According to my understanding, priority is to bring daughter here not original passport. If you have lost/misplaced it then we can get new one and I am ready to sign consent letter and pay whatever government fee right now. Law is same for everybody; consent letter is required from both parents. You have custody of daughter and she is living with your parents. If you didn’t tell to your husband that you got PR so that he couldn’t cancel the sponsorship and you are coming to Australia without your daughter (confirmed by you earlier), how would he know that you have misplaced and you need daughter’s new passport?

In situation like this, whole family is unfortunate and suffering. I can understand what you are trying to do here. In last all posts, you never discussed that there was a domestic violence incident and was even reported. You were always afraid that your husband will cancel the sponsorship but now you are trying to blame him with one more lie that he already reported to department in 2011.

Do you really know what would department have done if he had reported?
Department would have contacted you straightaway in 2011 and asked for explanation. Now if you will say that yes they contacted you then why you were afraid of something which already had happened?

You were living separate and in different countries, how he can be involved in domestic violence, in fact he was victim of domestic violence few times in past which he compromised for the sake of his daughter but everything has a limit.

Which police you have informed? Australian or Indian?

Every human gets sick during his/her life but one should never tell lies about their children’s health just to blame someone. I also know that you have no intention to bring your daughter here. According to your message, You want divorce but you won’t file until you get your Citizenship (12 months stay in Australia) . How cheap it is?

I am not on this thread to blame anybody but I am forced to be here to defend myself which I believe every human has right to. Please Stop Lying because everybody knows now that you are not good at it.


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Old 06-21-2013, 12:57 PM
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Yes Whitney: you are absolutely rite

I am solicitor working in this industry from the last 20 years, I have experienced with these type of cases. Conclusion after listen both parties:-

Patrick_1988 is very cleaver and diplomatic person actual problem is with him.he is a stupid and disrespectful person. what he wants from all of us to insult his wife. because she has taken the decision to leave him and hurt his man's ego nothing else.

Manjit has taken the rite decision to kick off Patrick_1988 from her life, because of he is really a ---------------------------.


Lets have a look what he wrote on this thread, if he insulted his wife in front of us to show he is a genuine person and show his bedroom talk publicly, what a kind of man he is.

Patrick_1988, you donot need to show us she is not a good girl publicly, this shows that what a kind of man you are.

Initial advice
Respect woman, because you are living in that country where you can sue which you wrote about your wife in this thread.

Good manjit to take the decision not to left your daughter with this guy, he will definable spoils your's daughters life. he is a crazy men.

Sorry if i wrote some wrong
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Originally Posted by Patrick_1988 View Post
After going through all the posts issued by you, I want to ask some question from you before giving any advice:-

1. So many times you mentioned that he will do this, he will do that. Can you pls. confirm what actually has he done until now? You initially came to Australia in March 2010 on Visa class 309 then how come your application for VC 100 lodged in Nov. 2011, almost 5 months earlier than prescribed 2 years of continuous relationship (department requirement) period if his intention was not good (seems impossible to achieve without his commitment)? Didn’t he provide all the supporting documents to department for second stage of your case?

2. Why he got so desperate to cancel your sponsorship (as you claim) within few weeks of providing documents? Why he initially filed your PR as you are already admitting that there were some family issues? Only 2 possibilities either he is crazy human being or you are the biggest liar alive on this world. Don’t you think that may be actual issue is your behaviour as apparently he has fulfilled all his responsibilities of being a husband?

3. If you claim that he didn’t want to live with you then why is he waiting on you for cancellation of sponsorship? Pls. be advised that it is his legal responsibility to inform the department about any changes of circumstances. Shouldn’t you have told in Nov 2011 that you have no intention to continue this relationship?

4. Has he reported until today to immigration that you didn’t inform department about your intentions of not continuing the relationship and you started living separate well in time before your 2 yrs tenure?

5. Clearly, you need to work bit more on your own definitions and understanding of relationships. Biological father always remain same but there can be different persons supporting you financially during your life. What point you want to make by saying that your daughter is from this relationship but he is not her biological father? Logically, if he is not your daughter’s biological father (as you said) then why are you complaining that much?

6. On what basis, you can say that he doesn’t have any feelings for her daughter? May be he still starts his day looking at her daughter’s picture on the front wall of his bed? May be he starts his day at work by punching her name in the keyboard to start his computer? May be he goes to bed with a hope to meet his daughter soon? If you can’t feel something then should everybody assume that it doesn’t exist? Pls. try to understand his feelings towards his daughter with the images you have of them together for first 9 months.

7. Was he really not calling his daughter, pls. try to put some pressure on your brain or contact your parents back in India? May be he uses to contact her but you were use to abuse him & award with different abusive titles every time over the phone similar to LABELLED FATHER? Unfortunately, 14-16 months old children are unable to manage mobiles as well. How you are so sure that he was not in touch through other resources? For eg. Pls. check message sent to your face book again, Dt. 01 Nov 2012, 10:57 PM AEST, “A lot of Love to XXXXX.” While you were busy to nominate him as “LABEL DAD” online. Have your parents on your instructions returned birthday gift with message sent by him to his daughter on 23.03.2013?


8. You said he is a labelled Dad, how you can support your claim? Didn’t he request you to leave the daughter with him? (May be he did, you would have said “no, I can’t live without her” and then he replied “one of us have to do the sacrifice and he will do it for the sake of his daughter in hope of living together soon.)

9. What kind of special Medical conditions your daughter has and how it is affecting her while stay in India? Do you have any medical certificate or it is all bullshit as usual just to blame him? Apparently, so called medical condition (which actually don’t exist) doesn’t sound that serious as she managed 16 months in India and doing really fine (going to school since age of 1.2 yrs) and her growth is normal.

10. Do you have true intention to bring your daughter? If yes, then why you refusing his offer to sign the consent letter for new passport insisting that you only want the original which he doesn’t have?

11. You blamed him for the Govt. Financial Assistance. Have you checked with centre link before blaming him or this is your assumption only, what he has claimed until now (easily recoverable)? As you were not working, who was taking care of house hold expenses such as house rent, internet, electricity, grocery, water, gardening and other social expenses? Any additional govt. support or any support from your parents back home? Who funded your trip and training to India?

12. Were you PR and eligible to claim the centre link benefits when your daughter born? Didn’t he open a separate joint bank account under both parents name for the centre link baby benefits? If no then you may be right, pls. check your facts first.

13. I couldn’t understand how he crossed borders with three passports, which almost impossible? If he had returned you all other documents then why not passport, if he had commonsense he would also knew that it is not complicated to get a duplicated one so no use of keeping it? Have you ever reported this to police? If not then why?

Initial Advice:-
Dear Manjit,
Keep the things simple.
Mutual Trust is the base of all relationships and especially where you living together all the time, it also becomes really crucial. Being honest and truthful are two qualities which can help you to achieve that. If you find anything familiar in above story them rethink of your actions until now, you may not need any advice from anyone.
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Old 06-21-2013, 01:01 PM
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Yes Whitney: you are absolutely rite

I am solicitor working in this industry from the last 20 years, I have experienced with these type of cases. Conclusion after listen both parties:-

Patrick_1988 is very cleaver and diplomatic person actual problem is with him.he is a stupid and disrespectful person. what he wants from all of us to insult his wife. because she has taken the decision to leave him and hurt his man's ego nothing else.

Manjit has taken the rite decision to kick off Patrick_1988 from her life, because of he is really a ---------------------------.


Lets have a look what he wrote on this thread, if he insulted his wife in front of us to show he is a genuine person and show his bedroom talk publicly, what a kind of man he is.

Patrick_1988, you donot need to show us she is not a good girl publicly, this shows that what a kind of man you are.

Initial advice
Respect woman, because you are living in that country where you can sue which you wrote about your wife in this thread.

Good manjit to take the decision not to left your daughter with this guy, he will definable spoils your's daughters life. he is a crazy men.

Sorry if i wrote some wrong



Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick_1988 View Post
Dear Manjit
I am more than 100% sure that we are characters of same storey. There is not even a single thing different except only 1% information is being provided by you. For your confirmation, I will give the full script of message sent by me on 07.04.2013 at 9.01 am AEST which you were referring to in your earlier post:-

“Hi,
I am not in position to talk over the phone. Please don’t harass me mentally by calling 33 times in 5 minutes. If you have something left to say then please send me a text. Thanks in anticipation of your understanding and appreciation.”

This message (exact wording) was sent after having 2 hours of abusive torcher from you over the phone on previous night when you went on saying that I cannot give father’s love to my daughter because I couldn’t get from my father because he died when I was only 2 years old.

We need to agree on the actual issue first. According to my understanding, priority is to bring daughter here not original passport. If you have lost/misplaced it then we can get new one and I am ready to sign consent letter and pay whatever government fee right now. Law is same for everybody; consent letter is required from both parents. You have custody of daughter and she is living with your parents. If you didn’t tell to your husband that you got PR so that he couldn’t cancel the sponsorship and you are coming to Australia without your daughter (confirmed by you earlier), how would he know that you have misplaced and you need daughter’s new passport?

In situation like this, whole family is unfortunate and suffering. I can understand what you are trying to do here. In last all posts, you never discussed that there was a domestic violence incident and was even reported. You were always afraid that your husband will cancel the sponsorship but now you are trying to blame him with one more lie that he already reported to department in 2011.

Do you really know what would department have done if he had reported?
Department would have contacted you straightaway in 2011 and asked for explanation. Now if you will say that yes they contacted you then why you were afraid of something which already had happened?

You were living separate and in different countries, how he can be involved in domestic violence, in fact he was victim of domestic violence few times in past which he compromised for the sake of his daughter but everything has a limit.

Which police you have informed? Australian or Indian?

Every human gets sick during his/her life but one should never tell lies about their children’s health just to blame someone. I also know that you have no intention to bring your daughter here. According to your message, You want divorce but you won’t file until you get your Citizenship (12 months stay in Australia) . How cheap it is?

I am not on this thread to blame anybody but I am forced to be here to defend myself which I believe every human has right to. Please Stop Lying because everybody knows now that you are not good at it.


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