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Old 03-02-2016, 11:36 AM
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Hi,

I am new here and was wondering if anybody has gone through the same thing as me or can point me in the right direction.

I have been with my bf for a year now and he is from Melbourne and a permanent resident and I am from the UK and so far we have just gone back and forward on holiday visas to each other .. I now want to go out for the year to live with him and work see how we go before looking at applying for anything for permanent.

I was just wondering if going on a working holiday Visa and living with him for the year would affect me applying for a de facto visa in future and is the best route to take? Has anybody does this before?

Look forward to any suggestions!
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Old 03-02-2016, 12:18 PM
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Hi Sashak,

First thing I would suggest before you apply for the partner visa is to ensure that you keep records of all trips to and from Australia and his trips to the uk and back to australia also. This will work towards your application to show that you have both travelled significant amounts to see one another. Also document emails, texts, call records etc anything to show that you have remained in regular contact with one another.

Depending on your choices, a 457 visa may not be necessary unless you plan on lodging an onshore visa application (which is more expensive and may take longer to process) however if you apply whilst on a 457 visa you will be granted a bridging visa whilst your partner visa is being considered. This however will raise the risk of if your partner visa is declined you may not be able to return to the 457 visa you were on prior to the bridging visa.

However a 457 visa will allow you time to gather some of the more significant evidence that is required to show that you have lived together as a defacto relationship.

I have recently been granted a 309 partner visa (off shore temp partner visa) and currently waiting for the permanent visa to be granted.

The documentation that we provided were as follows:

1. Tickets, receipts and evidence of travel together/ to see one another,
2. Call records, emails and also screenshots of anything and everything from Facebook that reflects our feelings to one another.
3. Joint bank accounts in Australia,
4. Evidence of engagement (pics of the proposal)
5. 20 stat decs from friends and family members confirming our relationship is genuine ( all signed by a JP)
6. A 7 page statement from both my partner and I explaining how we met, how we fell in love and any milestones in our relationship.
7. Photos of our apartment we had rented in joint names, along with tenancy agreements.
8. Evidence of bank statements showing we both paid bills and rent equally.
9. Evidence and receipts of any large items that were jointly purchased (ie Car, white goods, furniture)
10. relationship registration certificate (like a marriage cert but without the legal benefits, as a homo couple this was as close to marriage as we could get.

Although I am not 100% this is everything that we included, it believe it was the majority of evidence that was supplied.

the partner visa booklet that you can download from the immigration website proved invaluable in how our application was submitted and certainly helped when uploading all the evidence onto the application.

Please note that between you and your partner you are only able to submit 60 documents each. and although it may sound like a lot it stacks up very quickly, we had to scan multiple documents into a single PDF file and then reduce the size of the PDF to ensure it was able to be included with our application.

I know this is a lot of information and I hope that just a snippit of it helps to answer your question, all the best and good luck it is a long and very expensive route to take with a lot of risks along the way ( ie if your relationship breaks down)

Good luck with your application and I hope it works out for you.


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Hey eldublee

Thank-you so much for the quick response! you have helped me soo much am starting to gather all our flight details and hotel stays etc together now. That's what am worried about all the risks with it and stuff .. so was thinking of doing the working holiday visa for a year and living together see how we go then apply if its just as serious.

Do you think it would affect me if I went on the working holiday visa then applied at a later stage for the partner one? like perhaps come back to the UK after the year get our stuff together like bills etc and apply for the partner visa one then? I just know it asks about being in a relationship on the working holiday visa would I declare that :/

Sorry asking heaps more questions back
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Old 03-02-2016, 07:48 PM
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I think the 417 working holiday visa would be an ideal visa for your situation. It will allow you to live together for a year as required for an 820 de facto visa and also allow you to work for 6 month intervals with any one employer. People may say the working holiday visa should be used solely to holiday, travel and explore but in truth it is far more versatile than that. Once you are coming towards the end of your 417 visa register your relationship to negate the year co-habitation requirement and Lodge your de facto visa about a month prior to the 417 expiring. You will then be issued a bridging visa A which will come into effect on the final day of your 417 but with no work restrictions and you can calmly wait out the 820 visa processing time with your significant other.

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Old 03-02-2016, 08:58 PM
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Depending on your choices, a 457 visa may not be necessary unless you plan on lodging an onshore visa application (which is more expensive and may take longer to process).
Just a quick correction. The onshore 820 and offshore 309 partner visas are no longer different prices, they now cost the same.

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I did just this, yes.

My partner (Aussie) and I had lived together for 11 months in the UK, but needed that extra month and needed me to have an income when we were in Australia. So, I went over on a WHV and applied about a month after we reached the 12 months defacto requirement.

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unless you plan on lodging an onshore visa application (which is more expensive and may take longer to process) .
The cost of the onshore partner visa and the offshore partner visa are the same. Processing times are now almost the same as well.

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thank-you for this! Just keep reading so much stuff and that sounds clear and probably the best visa to apply for at this stage


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I did just this, yes.

My partner (Aussie) and I had lived together for 11 months in the UK, but needed that extra month and needed me to have an income when we were in Australia. So, I went over on a WHV and applied about a month after we reached the 12 months defacto requirement.
Hey msamy if you don't mind me asking was doing the defacto as much of a nightmare as people are telling me? did it all go okay??



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