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Old 12-22-2012, 01:04 PM
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This is his email Louise.
I got an email from immi.gov and they were saying puli cations from my date and before should not be affected by this.
When I applied indeed they said it was 5-6 months. After I got a first email from klaus he told me it was 7-9 months.
So I think we just have to wait and see what happens. I know people who applied in may and June are already granted.
Maybe it's our nice,hardworking CO :-)
hmmm couldnt agree more hon, P my agent in australia has said his manner is very short and sweet and he hates to be cornered bless him..... hmm. Seems unfair that both you and i have got the office slouge lol. It is so frustrating and he knows he has us by the jangly bits and there is nothing we can do, i do hope you hear something soon my dear, i know because i was married my application may be a little more complexed than others and maybe not as straight forward but still 1 year .... must be a record lol.


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hmmm couldnt agree more hon, Percy my agent in australia has said his manner is very short and sweet and he hates to be cornered bless him..... hmm. Seems unfair that both you and i have got the office slouge lol. He is so frustrating and he knows he has us by the jangly bits and there is nothing we can do, i do hope you hear something soon my dear, i know because i was married my application may be a little more complexed than others and maybe not as straight forward but still 1 year .... must be a record lol.
It's a bummer u have a complexed one.
I bet u wish it was different.
I luckily haven't. Married for 13 years and we married in Sydney that time. No kids and husband has got a fulltime job in Australia now. Nothing more, nothing less!
I still hope we all get some good news soon. It's like u said, there is nothing we can do but to wait. I think we should send klaus a Christmas card. Maybe he will get some Xmas spirit.....:-)


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Old 12-22-2012, 01:20 PM
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It's a bummer u have a complexed one.
I bet u wish it was different.
I luckily haven't. Married for 13 years and we married in Sydney that time. No kids and husband has got a fulltime job in Australia now. Nothing more, nothing less!
I still hope we all get some good news soon. It's like u said, there is nothing we can do but to wait. I think we should send klaus a Christmas card. Maybe he will get some Xmas spirit.....:-)
Ha i did think of this lol below i have posted the email i recieved from the agent in perth as she states 14 months is the time frame.



Dec 19 (3 days ago)
to me, Allieu

Dear Louise ,
Thank you for your email.
I can understand your frustration and anxiety. You cannot execute your own plans for moving your life forward until the case officer finalises his assessment and makes a decision on your application.
The Embassies are notoriously understaffed and for this reason applications do take time. Yours is likely one of over one hundred currently under assessment with Klaus alone, and therefore following any new document being supplied, it can take time for the case officer to come back around to the assessment. For this reason spouse visas internationally are now taking over 14 months on average to process. I have client in Perth whose application was lodged in Perth in March this year and it is still waiting to be allocated to a case officer. As Klaus is assessing your case, you are much closer to a decision.
I recognise that this doesn’t assist you with the frustrations you are facing however.
Unfortunately there is no way to “force” or compel a case officer to make a decision within a certain timeframe. I will try to contact again this afternoon, but as I said in my previous email, I do not believe you will receive a decision shortly.


If you have any queries, please do not hesitate to contact me.



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P. 08 9221 3388 | 1800 449 858
F. 08 6267 8084

PO Box 203 West Perth 6872
Western Australia
695 Murray Street, West Perth WA
(near the corner of Outram Street)


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Ha i did think of this lol below i have posted the email i recieved from the agent in perth as she states 14 months is the time frame.

Bonnie Hill <[email protected]>
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to me, Allieu

Dear Louise ,
Thank you for your email.
I can understand your frustration and anxiety. You cannot execute your own plans for moving your life forward until the case officer finalises his assessment and makes a decision on your application.
The Embassies are notoriously understaffed and for this reason applications do take time. Yours is likely one of over one hundred currently under assessment with Klaus alone, and therefore following any new document being supplied, it can take time for the case officer to come back around to the assessment. For this reason spouse visas internationally are now taking over 14 months on average to process. I have client in Perth whose application was lodged in Perth in March this year and it is still waiting to be allocated to a case officer. As Klaus is assessing your case, you are much closer to a decision.
I recognise that this doesn&rsquo;t assist you with the frustrations you are facing however.
Unfortunately there is no way to &ldquo;force&rdquo; or compel a case officer to make a decision within a certain timeframe. I will try to contact again this afternoon, but as I said in my previous email, I do not believe you will receive a decision shortly.

If you have any queries, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Kind regards,

Bonnie

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MARN 0531273

INTERSTAFF INTERNATIONAL

P. 08 9221 3388 | 1800 449 858
F. 08 6267 8084
[email protected]
PO Box 203 West Perth 6872
Western Australia
695 Murray Street, West Perth WA
(near the corner of Outram Street)

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Wow 14 months is a long wait.
I will keep u updated IF he replies to me or if get a grant.
Keep me updated about yours please!
Good luck and don't loose hope!


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Wow 14 months is a long wait.
I will keep u updated IF he replies to me or if get a grant.
Keep me updated about yours please!
Good luck and don't loose hope!
Ha i wont loose hope for sure, the annoying thing is that this time frame is on all visa,s as confirmed during a call to her after i received this email. I asked the question becasue i thought of changing the visa to be honest. I do believe its just Klaus being a lazy bugger.


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Hello Firstly yes the CO had informed my Agency Interstaff Perth of the new changes and my agency then informed me of the time frame, i was left feeling harried and disapointed, this was only yesterday i received this news. The CO i am using is Klaus, he had recently sent my agent an email last month saying the time frame had being increased to 12months for all applicants and i shouldnt be so pushy so to speak... how nice! Now they inform me that its pushed to 14 months and thats if you have a CO on your file. Its so annoying when Berlin tell us 7-9 months when infact they know it takes longer.
Sorry forgot to add i am appying for a marriage visa
Louise I fear that you may be misinformed...well I certainly hope so for your sake and for the rest of us that are waiting for visa's through Berlin. From what I can piece together from your many posts last night you are being told 2nd hand information and I believe that you might have misunderstood some of it also.

Firstly...the timeframes quotes to you by Bonnie?? (Percy's replacement while on leave) of 14 months internationally is not a figure that you want to take to heart. This number is the average time across ALL EMBASSIES and does not specially have a bearing on our embassy.

There are some really good and efficient embassy's and some not so good and some really easy cases and some not so and this time frame is the average of all of those as I understand it....so it is really not a number you want to hang your hat on and get upset about.

Bonny also referred to someone applying in Perth in March who hasn't even got a CO yet. Yes it is well known that the processing time for ONSHORE visa's is in excess of 13 months last time I heard a figure...but the difference is that this person is most likely with their loved one in Australia also and they have applied in the country (Australia - ONSHORE).

As for what Klaus apparently emailed to your agent that it was now over 12 months wait...well I would not be getting too upset about that unless you see the email for yourself and read the words yourself. It is true that some visa's will take over 12 months to process when they are complex cases and come from high risk countries. Malta is a low risk country if that is your country or residency. No one else has commented yet that they have been informed by their CO of an increase in timeframes...I guess it is possible they are waiting for the new year but really I would want to see it with my own eye.

It does sound to me like you have a complex case and a complex CO. I think baiting him or pushing him will do you no go but for him to dig his heels in and make your life harder and maybe even reject your visa??!!

My advice to you now would be to seek to get a copy of this email from Klaus stating it would be 12 months now and see the wording for yourself.

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Louise I fear that you may be misinformed...well I certainly hope so for your sake and for the rest of us that are waiting for visa's through Berlin. From what I can piece together from your many posts last night you are being told 2nd hand information and I believe that you might have misunderstood some of it also.
I certainly do hope i was mis informed, Bonnie was quite adament over the phone that this was a 14month wait, i didnt want to argue with her position as senior consultant as i did believe she knew what she was talking about. More so i was so shocked by this revelation that i was left feeling disheartened by it all.

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Firstly...the timeframes quotes to you by Bonnie?? (Percy's replacement while on leave) of 14 months internationally is not a figure that you want to take to heart. This number is the average time across ALL EMBASSIES and does not specially have a bearing on our embassy.
If this time is the national time why do these people assure us that the time frame is only ( as many have being told) 7-9 months, i would rather be told from the begining that it will take upto 14 months that way anything coming through via email or post before the time stipulated would be a wonderful surprise, instead of checking emails 2-3 times a day.

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There are some really good and efficient embassy's and some not so good and some really easy cases and some not so and this time frame is the average of all of those as I understand it....so it is really not a number you want to hang your hat on and get upset about.
I suppose there is good and bad in every working office and the embassy in berlin is no different, i wont get upset about it although i do see many people on here applying well after my application and finding that they have being granted there visa,s and good luck to them bless em all at least i know Berlin are not sitting and doing nothing lol.

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Bonny also referred to someone applying in Perth in March who hasn't even got a CO yet. Yes it is well known that the processing time for ONSHORE visa's is in excess of 13 months last time I heard a figure...but the difference is that this person is most likely with their loved one in Australia also and they have applied in the country (Australia - ONSHORE).
i did figure this one out, i believe that once a person has made an onshore application they take things a little more easy.

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As for what Klaus apparently emailed to your agent that it was now over 12 months wait...well I would not be getting too upset about that unless you see the email for yourself and read the words yourself.
I did see the email he had sent as the agency had forwarded a copy to me, as with others he was very short and abrubt and straight to the point, if i remember his email went along the lines of " we request more papers listed below, and your client has a wait of 12months from application" it was words to this effect. I dont have the original email as this was lost on my hotmail account unfortunatly.
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It is true that some visa's will take over 12 months to process when they are complex cases and come from high risk countries. Malta is a low risk country if that is your country or residency.
Yes both my partner and I are currently living in Malta.
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No one else has commented yet that they have been informed by their CO of an increase in timeframes...I guess it is possible they are waiting for the new year but really I would want to see it with my own eye.
My agent Percy never told me it would take this long poor guy is trying to push Klaus for an answer, it was only after he had taken vacation leave that his co partner Bonnie informed me of this time frame.

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It does sound to me like you have a complex case and a complex CO. I think baiting him or pushing him will do you no go but for him to dig his heels in and make your life harder and maybe even reject your visa??!!
As far as a complex case goes the only difficulty i have is that i was previously married and divorced, as far as a complexed CO goes i couldnt agree more lol. Due to his stuborness and working within his own cababilities which is low i do agree that trying to push him for an answer would result in a negative decision, saying this we are prepared to appeal his decision if he does forward a DECLINED result.

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My advice to you now would be to seek to get a copy of this email from Klaus stating it would be 12 months now and see the wording for yourself.
i have read the email and it clearly stated that i would have a wait of 12 months, my agent Percy was very annoyed at this as he said the time frame given to him by Klaus was unreasonable and basically out of order due to the fact that all documentation was approved and accepted by courier, As we have discussed our believe is that any person having Klaus as a CO is in for a very long wait, and unfortunatly his stuborness and eye for detail is beyond imaginable.

Thank you for this message as you can see i have read everything you have commented on and taken it on board, i do feel much better after reading this.

Thank you so much
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If this time is the national time why do these people assure us that the time frame is only ( as many have being told) 7-9 months, i would rather be told from the begining that it will take upto 14 months that way anything coming through via email or post before the time stipulated would be a wonderful surprise, instead of checking emails 2-3 times a day.

It is because this is the time across all embassy's and then Berlin quote you the time for BERLIN embassy which they told you ins 7 - 9 months. You will find other people on here are from other embassy's and I think their timeframes will be different depending on how many people apply at their embassy etc.

As far as a complex case goes the only difficulty i have is that i was previously married and divorced, as far as a complexed CO goes i couldnt agree more lol. Due to his stuborness and working within his own cababilities which is low i do agree that trying to push him for an answer would result in a negative decision, saying this we are prepared to appeal his decision if he does forward a DECLINED result.

It probably doesnt feel complex to you but the more things they have to look into the more complex it becomes. And I know you mentioned a child which they wanted health exams done for as well. It all adds up.

I would say one thing to you....please be careful not to think that you can just appeal the decision if you do get a decline. Yes this is possible to do via a MRT....BUT it is a long and expensive process. You will get your money back (about $1500 I think) if you are found to be in the right and the decision is overturned BUT it takes a long time to get a MRT done and then once you are successful you dont automatically have the visa approved, it just means you go back to the position in the process where the visa was up to when it was declined and they continue to assess it.

Soooooo I think you would still have Klaus as a CO (not 100% sure on that) but you would still be in the waiting process for your visa to be approved...all that you would have done is overturned the decision to decline it....this does not automatically mean your visa is APPROVED.

Also at this stage if you are going to a MRT I would expect you would be looking to have an immigration agent working with you with add more $$$$. So I guess what I am trying to say is...I know you are struggling with your CO and I know it is not fair or reasonable BUT your life is in his hands right now and the best thing you can do is TRY and play the game and bite your tongue and be his best friend....cos going through the process if he declines you because you annoy him too much IS NOT GOING TO BE EASY.


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It probably doesn't feel complex to you but the more things they have to look into the more complex it becomes. And I know you mentioned a child which they wanted health exams done for as well. It all adds up.
thanks for this explanation, its true to me its not so complexed but to the CO I'm sure it is, as you say especially having Heep's of paper work to go through.

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I would say one thing to you....please be careful not to think that you can just appeal the decision if you do get a decline. Yes this is possible to do via a MRT....BUT it is a long and expensive process. You will get your money back (about $1500 I think) if you are found to be in the right and the decision is overturned BUT it takes a long time to get a MRT done and then once you are successful you don't automatically have the visa approved, it just means you go back to the position in the process where the visa was up to when it was declined and they continue to assess it.
Ah thank you for this i didn't realize i would have more expense to pay out lol, it was mentioned previously about appealing if he declined me ( not by me but by the agency) but i didnt realize more money was involved in this process.... thinking about it they don't do nothing for nothing derrrrr! To be honest i wasn't aware you could appeal. I wonder just how many people have being declined on this forum and how they have proceeded.

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Soooooo I think you would still have Klaus as a CO (not 100&#37; sure on that) but you would still be in the waiting process for your visa to be approved...all that you would have done is overturned the decision to decline it....this does not automatically mean your visa is APPROVED.
oh the thought of having Klaus bless him involved in my life for a further year.....Where,s the rope lol. Also i didnt know that the previous CO would continue the case very interesting. Thank you for this info

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Also at this stage if you are going to a MRT I would expect you would be looking to have an immigration agent working with you with add more $$$$.
i have an immigration agent this is Percy and Bonnie of Interstaff perth. It was Percy bless him that had mentioned that we could further the case if a declined decision was decided upon.
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So I guess what I am trying to say is...I know you are struggling with your CO and I know it is not fair or reasonable BUT your life is in his hands right now and the best thing you can do is TRY and play the game and bite your tongue and be his best friend....cos going through the process if he declines you because you annoy him too much IS NOT GOING TO BE EASY.
Oh boy this is so true to every word and i thank you for this , i do not want to annoy him at all i do feel Klaus is under allot of pressure and he does have his work load cut out for him, patience has become a great part of my life right now,i just wish he,d work a little faster lol.

thanks for the information and advice, its good to know some one going through the same thing is only an email away.
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thanks for the information and advice, its good to know some one going through the same thing is only an email away.
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I hope I haven't sounded too negative. I do think you have a tough CO and reason to complain and worry....but the bigger picture is what our focus needs to be so I wanted you to know the details of what it would mean for you IF he did get annoyed enough to reject/decline you because he was fed up. Now this should never happen but I know they are humans too.

For me I find it to hard to bite my tongue and play the game but it is our lives in the line so I am trying to learn this skill FAST.

Can I ask you one question. You said you are living in Malta. Is that the country that issued your passport?


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