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They began data matching in May 2015.

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This was the original wording of the release.

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The intention is to identify possible visa and welfare frauds by comparing records of partner visa applicants (and their Australian sponsors) and Centrelink customers who claim that they are single. It is expected that both departments will be investigating from either end and providing suitable remedies if there is not a valid explanation.

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To my knowledge Centrelink and DIBP are data matching now to catch out people who are not declaring the relationship to Centrelink.

I would get her to do it ASAP as if/when DIBP finds out it could be a reason for rejection.
Thanks Mish, are they data matching every application?


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This was the original wording of the release.
Well I cant say I blame them! We will definitely be getting this sorted tomorrow. Can't believe we overlooked this..


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Thanks Mish, are they data matching every application?
One would think so if they are on Centrelink. One would think it would be similar to the ATO and Centrelink one with the income tax return but then I am not a data matching analysis person .


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So glad that my partner and I did declare our relationship to Centrelink when we got our house together. I'm applying for my skilled visa and not a partner visa; however, with the data matching going on, that could have been a nasty thing. Definitely better to do things by the book and be honest. It's well worth it in the long run.

On a side note, my partner's benefits did not go down. Maybe that is because I cannot receive Centrelink assistance yet? Just some food for thought there.


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Thanks heaps guys, we are just debating wether we should say weve been together since the DOL or just update tbe details from this point onwards. What I dont understand is wether or not DIBP and Centerlink are cross referencing the dates? Another problem is my partner hasnt updates our new address as she initially gave to centerlink her brothers address as we stayed there when we first moved up here. Its a lot of stuff to admit to centerlink in one sitting. This might be a question for a different thread ..


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Thanks heaps guys, we are just debating wether we should say weve been together since the DOL or just update tbe details from this point onwards. What I dont understand is wether or not DIBP and Centerlink are cross referencing the dates? Another problem is my partner hasnt updates our new address as she initially gave to centerlink her brothers address as we stayed there when we first moved up here. Its a lot of stuff to admit to centerlink in one sitting. This might be a question for a different thread ..
It is highly feasible that DIBP will see what Centrelink sees, and visa versa.

Update things as soon as you can..

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Keep in mind failure to update them can be taken as fraud.
If you are upfront then it could be taken as a mistake and you only have to repay the incorrect amount. If you wait for them to catch you then you at looking at potentially serious implications.


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Just to let you know about our experience with Centrelink and Immigration.

We have been investigating the 104 week rule as there is some ambiguity in the wording through the DSS Act and I finally found the right person to talk to! This person at Centrelink actually matched up our records with Immigration (we went to the UK last year for 5 weeks) and Centrelink were able to tell us the day we left and returned from immigration records! They were also able to tell us the date of our 820 application and when we were to apply for the 801. So yes, the two do work together.

Just to clarify the 104 week rule. To obtain Centrelink benefits (with the exception of Special Benefit which has its own rules) you must have Permanent Residency and have lived in Australia continuously for 104 weeks. For 300 visa holders the 104 weeks begins from the date the 820 was lodged. From my chat with Centrelink they are still under the impression that permanent residency 801 visas are a tick and flick (they're a bit behind the times). In our situation as we were in the UK for 5 weeks, that time must be added to the 104 weeks that my husband has officially been living in Australia eg. our 801 date is 25 June which means the 104 week period is officially over on roughly 1 August (the 5 week extra time).

Special Benefit is payable in a number of circumstances while you are on an 820 visa. This includes if you were employed and that employment ceased while you were in Australia; serious illness that developed in Australia (my husband managed to get Ross River Virus late last year but is well on the mend now) or if the sponsor has been working and that employment ends. From memory I think the threshold for income before Special Benefit would be rejected is $300 but I don't remember is that was week or fortnight.

The joys of having an ex Benefits Agency (UK) assessor married to an ex Centrelink (Pensions) assessor. But don't hold it against us - we left to pursue other, wonderful careers (conservation ecology and bioethics!).

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