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Old 10-19-2012, 05:52 AM
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Prospective marriage visa HELP! Please :)

Hi all, I'm very new to all this but any information would be amazing me and partner (I'm Australian and he is Indonesian) met 18 months ago, we met in Bali when we were both on holiday there, he is originally from Jakarta. Since meeting each other I flew over there to be with him for 3 months and a few more random month trips here and there, he has currently just flown back to Indonesia after spending a month here in australiaon the tourist visa....but this is getting to hard and want to know about our other options as we are both madly in love and hate being apart! But as I have a lot of stuff holding me here in Australia we have talked and have decided that Australia would be the best place for both of us even though we both love Indonesia! We have looked at getting the work visa but as he is a tattoo artist, it is not on the job list....so now we have come to the prospective marriage visa....if anyone could give me any information that would be seriously such a massive help as we are both tearing our hair out! Or even if there is any other ideas or just some elpful advice would e so appreciated. I look forward to reading your replies


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You could always opt for a partner visa. I met my partner in Indonesia and we basically had a long distance relationship to start with (a few brief weeks together for the first few months, but a heck of a lot of phone calls). I then went over there for a couple of months and we were able to get a 6 month tourist visa for her to come to Australia when my Indonesian visa ran out. We both thought marriage was a pretty big step considering we were still in the early stages of our relationship (and so didn't think a PMV was the way to go for us), so we went for a partner visa instead. At the end of her tourist visa we were just over the line in being able to establish we were in a committed relationship that had lasted 12 months (it sounds like you could establish this). I went back with her for a couple of weeks to make the application in Jakarta and we applied (successfully) for another 6 months tourist visa at the same time. My understanding is that if immigration think your partner visa has a good chance of being successful then they really don't have a problem in giving a tourist visa in the interim. They estimated it would take 7 months for the process of granting the partner visa and it was nearly that to the day (although we were told after 3 months that the visa was almost a certainty and we just had to wait our time in the queue). Good luck with whichever way you decide to go!


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You could always opt for a partner visa. I met my partner in Indonesia and we basically had a long distance relationship to start with (a few brief weeks together for the first few months, but a heck of a lot of phone calls). I then went over there for a couple of months and we were able to get a 6 month tourist visa for her to come to Australia when my Indonesian visa ran out. We both thought marriage was a pretty big step considering we were still in the early stages of our relationship (and so didn't think a PMV was the way to go for us), so we went for a partner visa instead. At the end of her tourist visa we were just over the line in being able to establish we were in a committed relationship that had lasted 12 months (it sounds like you could establish this). I went back with her for a couple of weeks to make the application in Jakarta and we applied (successfully) for another 6 months tourist visa at the same time. My understanding is that if immigration think your partner visa has a good chance of being successful then they really don't have a problem in giving a tourist visa in the interim. They estimated it would take 7 months for the process of granting the partner visa and it was nearly that to the day (although we were told after 3 months that the visa was almost a certainty and we just had to wait our time in the queue). Good luck with whichever way you decide to go!
But with the partner visa don't we need to provide that we have been helping with each others finances when we haven't been?


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Not necessarily, you simply need to show that you are in a committed relationship to the exclusion of all others and that relationship has been ongoing for at least 12months. Helping with each others finances is something you can use as proof of your relationship but I wouldn't say it was crucial - you simply need to look for other pieces of proof that will demonstrate it. There are lots of threads in this forum that I found really helpful in preparing our application, but having said that there are lots of stories that can get you down as well. I would recommend your 1st step to be getting on to the immigration website to look at the information they have there about the various types of visas and what is required for each one. It is quite a useful read. Our reason for not using the PMV was that you must marry within a time limit and we didn't want that sort of pressure - you and your partner may not feel the same way....


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Yeah we definitely feel that way. We want to marry cause we want to.


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That's great - the PMV might be best for you then. I would still recommend the immi site to read up on the differences between visas and the information you need to include in your application. There will likely be some discussions on this site about it too. I would definitely recommend applying for a lengthy tourist visa for him at the same time as your other visa. The wait is definitely easier when you are together.......


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Oh no sorry. I wrote that wrong, I definitely like the sound of the partner visa.


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Hi Aduncan, I don't know if you have read this but Partnet Booklet from the immigration.gov.au website would help you a lot in terms of being aware of the differences between spouse visa, fiancee visa and de facto visa. This would somehow give you a better understanding of the terms and conditions of each visa that is appropriate for you and your partner. All the best

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Hey Garyh!

Hi, I noticed that you applied for another 6 month tourist visa for your partner whilst also applying for the partner visa? Did I read that right?

I intend on applying for a similar partner visa but don't have the 12 month proof to furnish them, just for 8 months since my partner supported me while apart. (Thank goodness for wire transfers-great proof!)
So I will need to extend my 676 now. Did you let them know that you guys were ultimately going to apply for the partner visa on the tourist visa app?
Once I get an extension for another 6 months, we will have enough months together with all the evidence.
The joys (lows) of international relationships!!

Thanks, I appreciate your help!!

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We applied for the first 6 month visa without mentioning our relationship and that we wanted it so that we could be together. I pitched it on the basis that I wanted to show her Australia because she had shown me similar hospitality when I was in Indonesia. The purpose of a tourist visa is for it to end with an assurance that the visitor will go home. We couldn't hide our relationship when we applied for the 2nd tourist visa because we applied for it at the same time as the partner visa, but luckily we already had proof we had been a couple for 12 months. They granted the 2nd one pretty quickly and information from immigration suggests if they think the partner visa has a good chance of success they will usually allow a tourist visa while you wait for the grant.


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