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Old 04-16-2016, 06:22 PM
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Fraudulent Visa Application

This is an account of my partner’s visa application which I now believe to be fraudulent. I am now concerned that someone could be granted the privilege of becoming a permanent resident of Australia despite committing fraud and lying to Immigration authorities both overseas and in Australia. I have a substantial amount of documentary evidence that demonstrates that this person intended to deceive all parties before her arrival in Australia and that the lies and deception were for the sole purpose of attaining permanent Australian residency.

I believe that if my wife was granted permanent residency it would be an injustice to all those that do the right thing and seek to enter Australia via the proper channels and processes and an insult to those that risk their life on the ocean whilst fleeing genuine persecution and end up in off-shore detention centres.

I first met my wife in Jakarta in early 2011 and we appeared to be very compatible. We met several times during the year and in September 2011 we had an Indonesian wedding ceremony. In February 2012, my partner arrived in Australia under a Prospective Marriage Visa. We were subsequently married in September 2012. Throughout this time I always considered our relationship was genuine. However, shortly after our wedding I discovered an extra phone that my wife had hidden which contained numerous text messages to multiple men. I found that my wife had at least two affairs with other men throughout 2012.

At that time, I had wanted to end the relationship however my wife fell pregnant and I decided to give my wife another chance so that we could raise our child together. I now firmly believe that my wife fell pregnant purely so that I would not end our relationship and that once the baby was born, she believed that her permanent residency in Australia was secure.

Some time later I managed to access my wife’s email account which provided further information and demonstrated the level of lies, deception and betrayal towards me. I found that just 2 months after our Indonesian wedding ceremony my wife had made arrangements to meet up with another Australian in Thailand and they posed as a married couple in a resort while they were there. My wife immediately resumed the affair as soon as she landed in Australia and commenced a further ongoing affair with another man later that year. Both of those affairs continued until I discovered them.

My wife had stated to several men in those emails that she was just waiting to have her Permanent Residency ("PR") granted. On her first full day in Australia my wife stated that she was not happy in the situation that she was now in (ie. living with me) and that she had a long wait before getting her PR. On another occasion three weeks before our wedding my wife stated that she wanted to “give me a bad impression of herself so that I would divorce her”.

In the two and a half years since my son was born, my wife had said to me on many occasions that we should send him to her parents in Jakarta so that they could look after him. I have of course stated repeatedly that there is no way that I could allow that to happen. While my wife claims to love our son and states that she was only saying in jest that we should send him away, I believe that my wife was serious as she has said that she would want him to learn the Indonesian culture and religion before living in Australia. I further believe that she lacks attachment with any of her children. My wife's two older boys were also looked after by my wife's parents in Indonesia for most of the last 4 years while my wife has been in Australia.

My wife returned to Indonesia twice in 2015. In March of that year my wife rekindled a relationship with an earlier boyfriend. In October 2015, I learnt that she had had another affair with an Indonesian man while she was home. I sent my wife a text message stating that I could not believe that she was again having affairs with other men with knowing how close we came to breaking up previously. My wife replied that she was sorry and cited an unbelievable excuse being that I did not follow her religion (her excuse is even less valid as her first affairs were with men that also did not follow her religion).

Over the next few weeks, I learnt more of my wife's latest affairs and in one conversation she said to one man that "she has been thinking over and over again that once she gains her permanent residency, she will bring him out under her PR". I then decided that I would definitely end our relationship.

However, before I informed my wife of my decision, I had to make sure that she would not attempt to take my son out of Australia. I then made an application to the Federal Circuit Court for a Parenting Order so that I could have my son placed on the Airport Watchlist which would prevent him from going overseas. I am also seeking sole custody of our son.

Once I knew that my son could not be taken out of Australia, I informed my wife during the evening of Christmas Day 2015 that I was terminating our relationship as she had proven once again how deceitful, unfaithful and untrustworthy she was. I said to her that I had given her more chances than she deserved to prove to me that her feelings towards me were genuine however she continually proved the opposite.

I have now informed Immigration that I have withdrawn my sponsorship of my wife's visa. At this stage, she still has only a temporary visa as the next stage of the visa process was delayed while we sought to have her two older boys included in the visa application.

I understand that one of the conditions that could allow her to stay in Australia is being the parent of a child where there is a joint custody arrangement. As I have stated previously, I do not believe my wife truly has any attachment or wish to provide any ongoing care of our son. I further believe that this condition of having a child in Australia and being granted a visa solely on that basis would further undermine the visa approval process and open it up to widespread abuse.

I have now also written to the Minister and Shadow Minister of Border Protection alerting them to this case as I am concerned that as time goes on Immigration will let things slide and grant my wife PR regardless of the information that I have provided.

My wife has deliberately lied and deceived everyone, including myself, everyone I know and Australian Immigration that she was in a genuine relationship with me. My wife’s sole purpose was to obtain permanent entry into Australia and she was prepared to act the part and do whatever she had to do to obtain that goal. It would therefore be a mistake if Immigration believe my wife if she claims that her relationship with me was genuine.

I have been devastated by my wife’s actions as I did actually love this woman and now I am frustrated by not knowing what or when Immigration will do something as they will now tell me nothing. I am angry that my wife could be rewarded with permanent residency despite all that she has done. I would appreciate any ideas on how I can continue to campaign so that her plan can be thwarted.

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Old 04-16-2016, 08:50 PM
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Sorry to hear about your devastating position - consider seeking advice from a migration agent and lawyer.
I can say try not to act/seem vindictive in this case, as it may undermine your concern for her not deserving PR and just look like you're seeking revenge about a relationship break down.
As long as you learn the proper approaches to this situation, and give DIBP all the information you can about the fact that she used you and misled both you and the Australian government to get PR rather than your relationship just falling through, then DIBP should act accordingly. However, the child in the situation makes it more difficult than most of us average forum users can give advice for, but there are some great migration agents on here that will be able to help.

Mostly I'm just posting to wish you good luck! It must be such a heartbreaking position to be in, especially with a child involved.


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Hi Kahmilah, thank you for replying to my post and your best wishes. It has been a very distressing situation for me especially as I had totally misjudged her character. I think that she has been so completely immoral to just use someone for her own selfish purposes with no concern for what that would do to me. Unfortunately, it is now complicated with our son being involved. However I just think it is very unfair if she is granted PR on that basis only. What is the point of proving a genuine relationship if all you need to do is quickly get pregnant when you arrive?

I have given immigration quite a bit of information on the matter and hopefully it is sufficient for them to decide that her application cannot proceed. I suppose I could be considered as someone just seeking revenge for a broken relationship however her plan was premeditated and her comments regarding attaining PR were consistent and ongoing. Again I think it would be very unfair for everyone doing the right thing if she was to get away with it.


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Beware the abusive relationship claim she will put forward next. You are not the first.

Suggest get DNA on your child from what you have said.

Good luck

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Hi Ampk, thank you. The DNA test did cross my mind when she was pregnant. I subsequently did the test the first opportunity that I had and he is definitely mine. The other issue I have tried to pre-empt with Immigration. I am a Child Protection Caseworker and I just don't do abuse. I have not even raised my voice to her despite all the things that she has done. I wouldn't be surprised if she tried to play that card however she has got nothing to go on.

My former wife and I also adopted a child from overseas and I have numerous reports from social workers and psychologists that were obtained during the assessment process that were glowing in their assessment of our parenting of our older children. I have included all that information in an affidavit to the Family Court that I hope will reject any possible claim of domestic violence.


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I'm very sorry this happened to you and thank you for sharing your story to warn others.

Unfortunately this is a common story amongst certain nationalities. The exact same thing happened to my friend who married a Nigerian man. She threw him out of the house only 5 months after he arrived in the country because of his scamming and cheating. He quickly forms relationships with several women and he rushed and even paid for the divorce. Of course my friend withdrew her sponsorship and he was given 28 days to leave. He appealed and because of the length of time before the hearing he was abLe to marry the first of his other girlfriends to get pregnant. We tried to warn her but she wouldn't listen. Even the other gfs tried. She had the baby and went to the appeal hearing with him and of course our stupid government gave him pr and he is still here today but of course left the second wife soon after she had a second baby .

This is known amongst certain nationalities to be a sure fire way to stay in the country. I have read similar stories on here from other forum members.

So I'm sorry to say it's likely she will be able to stay - but they won't tell you anything as you have no rights once u withdraw sponsorship.

It's outrageous that u are not allowed to speak at the hearing.

Please other forum members if you catch your spouse cheating on you before the visa process is complete take it that they do not love u and are with you for a visa only. Stop the process immediately and do not get pregnant if they have cheated.

People like this make it very hard on the rest of us and we should all fight to stop fraud like this occurring in any way we can even if it's just sharing your story

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Hi Chicken999,
Thank you also for your reply and comments. I think it is extremely frustrating that Immigration will tell you nothing after withdrawing the sponsorship. Who else would know the situation better than the partner?

I am trying to do everything that I can but I tend to agree with you that she will be allowed to stay. We are back in the Family Court on 26 April and I am hoping to get full custody of my son. I have included in my Affidavit a diary of the last month or so which shows that I am already providing his primary care. I have also included a text message that she sent to me just before I confronted her which said "this is mummy's boy who is going to be looked after by his grand mum in Indo". It is just an example of what she has continually said to me over the last couple of years. If I can get full custody maybe Immigration will be less likely to allow her to stay.


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I will also add that my wife has a new boyfriend and I think she is working on him so that he will offer himself as her new sponsor. I am not sure if that is possible but I think that is her intention.


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This is an account of my partner’s visa application which I now believe to be fraudulent. I am now concerned that someone could be granted the privilege of becoming a permanent resident of Australia despite committing fraud and lying to Immigration authorities both overseas and in Australia. I have a substantial amount of documentary evidence that demonstrates that this person intended to deceive all parties before her arrival in Australia and that the lies and deception were for the sole purpose of attaining permanent Australian residency.

I believe that if my wife was granted permanent residency it would be an injustice to all those that do the right thing and seek to enter Australia via the proper channels and processes and an insult to those that risk their life on the ocean whilst fleeing genuine persecution and end up in off-shore detention centres.

I first met my wife in Jakarta in early 2011 and we appeared to be very compatible. We met several times during the year and in September 2011 we had an Indonesian wedding ceremony. In February 2012, my partner arrived in Australia under a Prospective Marriage Visa. We were subsequently married in September 2012. Throughout this time I always considered our relationship was genuine. However, shortly after our wedding I discovered an extra phone that my wife had hidden which contained numerous text messages to multiple men. I found that my wife had at least two affairs with other men throughout 2012.

At that time, I had wanted to end the relationship however my wife fell pregnant and I decided to give my wife another chance so that we could raise our child together. I now firmly believe that my wife fell pregnant purely so that I would not end our relationship and that once the baby was born, she believed that her permanent residency in Australia was secure.

Some time later I managed to access my wife’s email account which provided further information and demonstrated the level of lies, deception and betrayal towards me. I found that just 2 months after our Indonesian wedding ceremony my wife had made arrangements to meet up with another Australian in Thailand and they posed as a married couple in a resort while they were there. My wife immediately resumed the affair as soon as she landed in Australia and commenced a further ongoing affair with another man later that year. Both of those affairs continued until I discovered them.

My wife had stated to several men in those emails that she was just waiting to have her Permanent Residency ("PR") granted. On her first full day in Australia my wife stated that she was not happy in the situation that she was now in (ie. living with me) and that she had a long wait before getting her PR. On another occasion three weeks before our wedding my wife stated that she wanted to “give me a bad impression of herself so that I would divorce her”.

In the two and a half years since my son was born, my wife had said to me on many occasions that we should send him to her parents in Jakarta so that they could look after him. I have of course stated repeatedly that there is no way that I could allow that to happen. While my wife claims to love our son and states that she was only saying in jest that we should send him away, I believe that my wife was serious as she has said that she would want him to learn the Indonesian culture and religion before living in Australia. I further believe that she lacks attachment with any of her children. My wife's two older boys were also looked after by my wife's parents in Indonesia for most of the last 4 years while my wife has been in Australia.

My wife returned to Indonesia twice in 2015. In March of that year my wife rekindled a relationship with an earlier boyfriend. In October 2015, I learnt that she had had another affair with an Indonesian man while she was home. I sent my wife a text message stating that I could not believe that she was again having affairs with other men with knowing how close we came to breaking up previously. My wife replied that she was sorry and cited an unbelievable excuse being that I did not follow her religion (her excuse is even less valid as her first affairs were with men that also did not follow her religion).

Over the next few weeks, I learnt more of my wife's latest affairs and in one conversation she said to one man that "she has been thinking over and over again that once she gains her permanent residency, she will bring him out under her PR". I then decided that I would definitely end our relationship.

However, before I informed my wife of my decision, I had to make sure that she would not attempt to take my son out of Australia. I then made an application to the Federal Circuit Court for a Parenting Order so that I could have my son placed on the Airport Watchlist which would prevent him from going overseas. I am also seeking sole custody of our son.

Once I knew that my son could not be taken out of Australia, I informed my wife during the evening of Christmas Day 2015 that I was terminating our relationship as she had proven once again how deceitful, unfaithful and untrustworthy she was. I said to her that I had given her more chances than she deserved to prove to me that her feelings towards me were genuine however she continually proved the opposite.

I have now informed Immigration that I have withdrawn my sponsorship of my wife's visa. At this stage, she still has only a temporary visa as the next stage of the visa process was delayed while we sought to have her two older boys included in the visa application.

I understand that one of the conditions that could allow her to stay in Australia is being the parent of a child where there is a joint custody arrangement. As I have stated previously, I do not believe my wife truly has any attachment or wish to provide any ongoing care of our son. I further believe that this condition of having a child in Australia and being granted a visa solely on that basis would further undermine the visa approval process and open it up to widespread abuse.

I have now also written to the Minister and Shadow Minister of Border Protection alerting them to this case as I am concerned that as time goes on Immigration will let things slide and grant my wife PR regardless of the information that I have provided.

My wife has deliberately lied and deceived everyone, including myself, everyone I know and Australian Immigration that she was in a genuine relationship with me. My wife’s sole purpose was to obtain permanent entry into Australia and she was prepared to act the part and do whatever she had to do to obtain that goal. It would therefore be a mistake if Immigration believe my wife if she claims that her relationship with me was genuine.

I have been devastated by my wife’s actions as I did actually love this woman and now I am frustrated by not knowing what or when Immigration will do something as they will now tell me nothing. I am angry that my wife could be rewarded with permanent residency despite all that she has done. I would appreciate any ideas on how I can continue to campaign so that her plan can be thwarted.
this is first time I join this forum after really read your touching story. I feel deeply sorry for you .. She is cheater and it is illness and won't stop her whatever true or not true your story because I only hear from your side.

I am Indo too but I am independent and I met my partner nearly 3 years ago, he was my client. And I paid my own flight ticket & visa. I understand as sharing couples! So again not all Indo or Asian like your wife, I know one of my friend is cheater too and won't stop her being cheater, she is just slut, sorry bit harsh, I just don't respect girl using kids to get money from man as bite, this is happening every where, I feel sad for you. I am too scare getting marry too now hehe

My advice : call DIAC by her passport number, bday, TRN number, ID application/ visa granted. Tell the truth story, or email them write on subject "the case, her name, TRN, App Number". If you didn't receive any reply within 2 days, re-send the email or call them with prepare her name, passport name, TRN, app number visa.
They will easy hold proccessing visa, if your child born in Australia means he is Australian, if your wife never declare any birth certificate in Indo means still safe, remain Indo kids possible have 2 nationality but remain until 17yo or 18yo they need choose one nationality only.

If your wife visa canceled, remain she need get out to Australia within 28days, WITH or WITHOUT kids, so make sure you will full custody and prepare all evidence.

I don't know you, I don't know if the story is not false, but hope all the best for you. This is just make Indonesian bad name as personality I am Indonesian and I am independent. If something happen I can afford my flight ticket back to Indo and I have property & land invest in my country. So again .. I coming to Australia not for chasing Australian man money. My partner just genuine such greats man .. We love each others.


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Hi Chicken999, Thank you also for your reply and comments. I think it is extremely frustrating that Immigration will tell you nothing after withdrawing the sponsorship. Who else would know the situation better than the partner? I am trying to do everything that I can but I tend to agree with you that she will be allowed to stay. We are back in the Family Court on 26 April and I am hoping to get full custody of my son. I have included in my Affidavit a diary of the last month or so which shows that I am already providing his primary care. I have also included a text message that she sent to me just before I confronted her which said "this is mummy's boy who is going to be looked after by his grand mum in Indo". It is just an example of what she has continually said to me over the last couple of years. If I can get full custody maybe Immigration will be less likely to allow her to stay.
I agree. The system needs to change so u can give evidence of fraud at hearing.

Yes good luck at court I truly hope u win and this counts in your favour. If u can get her booted out of the country it's a win for all genuine couples

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