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De Facto Visa 820/801 Sponsor Citizenship by grant 40SP Issue


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Old 11-14-2012, 11:20 PM
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De Facto Visa 820/801 Sponsor Citizenship by grant 40SP Issue

Hi guys,

Currently in the process of applying for my defacto visa just had a few minor concerns about form 40SP.

My sponsor for the visa was granted citizenship in 1995 (originally a NZ citizen)

It states on the form that if citizenship was granted state the date granted and attach prove (this one is simple, we've got an AU passport and Citizenship certificate)

The second part of the statement says Prove length of residence....

This stumped me a bit, surely a citizenship granted in 1995 doesnt have to prove if they are residing here or the length they've been here....


I just dont really understand how I can prove this, I've got a NZ passport with a immigration stamp from 1995 from when she entered the country and an Australian Citizenship Certificate from 1995 and thats it... She was 6 years old at the time (17 years ago). It's not like shes got employment records from that period.

Do you guys know how I would go about proving this? Since she immigrated to Australia she's lived here permanently.

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Old 11-15-2012, 12:18 AM
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The second part of the statement says Prove length of residence....

This stumped me a bit, surely a citizenship granted in 1995 doesnt have to prove if they are residing here or the length they've been here....

I just dont really understand how I can prove this, I've got a NZ passport with a immigration stamp from 1995 from when she entered the country and an Australian Citizenship Certificate from 1995 and thats it... She was 6 years old at the time (17 years ago). It's not like shes got employment records from that period.

Do you guys know how I would go about proving this? Since she immigrated to Australia she's lived here permanently.

Thanks in advance
Hi rofnac,

I think what you can do is to attach certified copies (or originals) of school certificates, utility bills, letters, cards, credit card statements, etc. anything showing her name with an Australian address. You can just have a sampling of these docs from when she started receiving them. For her earlier years, maybe you can show her parents' Australian address? I'm no expert, this is only my personal opinion. This is what we did to prove my fiance's residency in Australia. Good luck.

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It just seems a bit ridculous... If youre a citizen of a country I don't think you should have to prove you live there? I understand if you're a permanent resident. If they are asking for hard evidence its a little unfair as who honestly keeps records for 20+ years, especially a 6 year old.

I can't prove my sponsor has been living here for 17 years in hard evidence paper based form. I highly doubt her parents have documents dating back this far, she has her school certificates but thats about it, that only proves that she graduated year 12 circa 2007, nothing predating that to 1995.

The only thing I can think of doing is for her to write a Stat Dec outlining where she lived, where she went to school, where she worked with specific dates and places...


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I hope someone who knows the answer to this for sure will chime in. What they want for "proof of length of residence" for permanent residents is just a copy of their visa in their passport. At least, that's my understanding. I wonder if it's something that straightforward for citizens -- that they want something similar. This is completely a guess on my part, though. I'm new to all this.


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Hi everyone,

This also applied to me and I chose to ignore it.

Although it's confusing at first, if you read the form and the booklet very closely, you can find that only permanent residents need to be ordinarily resident in Australia.

No such thing applies to citizens, and nowhere except in that question is there a differentiation between citizens by birth and citizens by grant. So this second part to that question is entirely irrelevant.

There are plenty of such little anomalies in the forms that have made me tear my hair out more than once! Perhaps they're there by design to encourage people to just give up before they even apply


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