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Old 11-15-2012, 11:52 AM
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Marriage fraud

I have got into a fake marriage to sponsor my friends friend.
However now I want to stop doing this.
When I told them I want to stop, they said they will bring this matter into court.

Would I be penalized ? And what would it be?

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Old 11-16-2012, 04:45 PM
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I would like to punch the living hell out of you right now. It is because of F**kwits like you that people like us have to go through a ridiculous amount of paperwork, money, stress and waiting time of up to over a year to get visas approved.

I hope your "friends" sue the s**t out of you.

To everybody else: Sorry about the language.

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Old 11-16-2012, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Laegil
I would like to punch the living hell out of you right now. It is because of F**kwits like you that people like us have to go through a ridiculous amount of paperwork, money, stress and waiting time of up to over a year to get visas approved.

I hope your "friends" sue the s**t out of you.

To everybody else: Sorry about the language.
You took the words right out of my mouth!!
Indeed because of those people we have to wait. I am married for 13 years with an Aussie and I also have to wait in the que. play it fair!!!!!

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Old 11-16-2012, 11:09 PM
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You will need to notify DIAC. If you are the one who lets authorities know you should escape with just a fine. If DIAC finds through someone else you will be taken to court.

People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.

We are told to remember the idea, not the man. Because a man can fail. He can be killed and forgotten. But four hundred years later an idea can still change the world.

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Old 11-17-2012, 12:58 AM
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Let's start with: if you are the one who steps up and owns it before they report you for fraud first you might be off a bit better than otherwise.

Secondly I second everyone else's sentiment. I hope you realize you deserve to get punished for this and own it and take it like an honest person. I hope you realize what people like you cause others. You're the reason those of us who are really in love have to crawl, beg and turn in their savings to be able to stay with their partner. The reason some REAL couples who simply do not have a lot of finance to share but also don't want to get married to make it easier because they don't want to lie, get REJECTED and TORN APART because they took the honest way and that didn't count because of people like yourself.

Honorable as you are for owning up to it now, I hope you don't expect a round of applause until you've paid your dues to the system. We pay MORE than your dues probably for doing absolutely NOTHING wrong. We turn in months and years of our lives and countless sleepless nights and huge sums of money just because we love someone. You might do some of that, too, for assisting in fraud. Count yourself lucky that whatever punishment you'll get, at least you get to have your loved ones around you whenever you like.

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Old 11-17-2012, 01:35 AM
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Oh give me strength to not hunt you down,my wife and i have had to be apart for 7 months so far with more to come apart from 3 weeks in Oct. Be best you never admitted such to me in person. I am not saying any more as im sure if i kept going my post would not make it on here.

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Old 11-17-2012, 08:09 AM
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You deserve to be punished. If you have any decency whatsoever left in you, you should disclose this information to DIAC immediately. It is because of people like you and your friends that the rest of us have to suffer and be apart from those we love. You also need to ask yourself what sort of a friend would ask you to do this for them.

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Old 12-29-2012, 12:59 PM
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Marriage Fraud

I married my husband from Lebanon (muslim Aliwite) 5 years ago. He had already been in Australia for 3 years when I met him. He was a shy, loving and kind man that I fell in love with but gradually over the 5 years he became a monster. It got to the point that my self-esteem hit rock bottom and I feared telling Immigration Dept that I no longer wanted to be with him because in fear of his anger and abuse towards me.

One time I left him to live with my family but he convinced them that he 'would try and stop being angry and violent.' So it seemed I had no choice. I worked very hard to get him citizenship after he had been rejected 5 times before we married an application for a protection visa. He lied about being captured by the Hezbollah and bashed. I believed his story for years as he did have sustained injuries which convinced me he may have been telling the truth, but I later found out from his brother that it was from a motorbike accident in Lebanon.

He also dumped his car in bushland and claimed the insurance money, he had been texting other women and being secretive about money telling me he was getting paid but his boss told me he was getting paid every week. And my husband never paid tax either while working. Things that were happening just didn't add up. I confronted my husband and asked him if he was using me to gain citizenship but again he convinced me he loved me but his actions never matched up with his words.

In October 2012, he was granted Permanant residency and I saw it as my opportunity to see if he was in love with me. I left him after another one of his violent outbursts. I left with just a dress to wear the next day and fled to my mother's. And just as I suspected, my husband never bothered to try and get me to go back. Within a few days he offered a friend who was divorced to move in to the rented unit we were living in. I saw legal aid and reported to police his violence. Although he never hit me just putting his fist up to me, and he wasn't harrassing me, I didn't get an AVO.

I am studying nursing and had no where to live so had to rent a room in the middle of an isolated town outside Sydney. I went to centrelink and they were very helpful emotionally and I did get an extra $10 a fortnight because of my situation (living in a room). It was horrible and still is. I opened my heart to a man that lied to me day after day, with planning he got what he wanted.

He has not once said he'd try and change by seeing a counsellor because I was willing to go and seek help and support him. He told me his anger was from the things happening in Syria. He has since changed his first name to 'Michael' from Mohamad, is going to learn English which he said he didn't have time while we were married. And has never offered to help me financially while I have lost my whole world literally out from under me he continues to live his life the way he wants while I suffer.

I suspect he's seeing another woman because during the last week I left him I called a number that he smsd and the woman hung up on me when I told her who I was. I know I can't save my marriage and you all probably think why would I want to which is understandable but I am lost, heart broken and want to know what my legal rights are. I have suffered for years while married to him and still am because I continue to live in a room and have nothing. I eventually had my family collect my things and he packed everything including rubbish eg; old outdated food. That really made me feel like he thought i was rubbish too.

I have written to the Immigration dept outlining what has happened and also wrote to the Immigration minister NSW. Any advice would be appreciated.

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Old 12-29-2012, 02:27 PM
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Hi Kim,

I'm very sorry to hear about your situation. I myself have been involved with a less-than-great partner before so I know the fine line between the urge to stay and the urge to leave, although I do hope you'll forgive me for saying that by reporting him and/or incidents earlier, you would have had a stronger case now.

In your situation I would not go off of what people on a forum say, even though you might get some great advice, because your situation might touch on a lot of different departments. Can you get free/affordable legal advice since you say you are financially weak at the moment? Go talk to someone who can give you free legal advice, I know it's possible I have just never been in that position so cannot tell you off the top of my head where to turn for that. Also talk to someone at the police station and someone at Immigration. Make very clear in all cases that this is a former abuser and someone with a troubled past so you would prefer for them not to approach him before you can make some kind of a case against him, through any of them. Get advice from as many professionals as could be applicable in your situation. Keep going until you find a way to create consequences for his actions, and ask all those different institutions what they would advise you. I am sorry to say some might tell you you should have said something and/or pressed charges earlier, but that does not mean you just give up. You have to be hard about this one last time, this is your last shot, don't let him bend and break you again and stand tall for whatever the results may be.

Just like you need a paper trail to get a partner visa - do you have any paper trail of the abuse? Any notes of his, or any hospital bills for injuries inflicted (indirectly) by him?

Since he has already been granted permanent residence you might have to accept that Immigration might not be your go-to people at this point anymore. It is too late to take that back now, probably, although I am not a professional and you might want to try anyway.

Good luck!

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Old 12-30-2012, 12:50 AM
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One other suggestion is go tell your story to shows like ''A Current Affair'' or go on talk-back will cause quite a stir n then maybe the ones in charge might take action...

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