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Old 12-09-2012, 02:37 PM
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Just a quick one, did you come to Australia to be with your wife? My fiance is moving here because one of us had to move and we both agreed that the best choice was for her to come here. If we broke up, she would definately not want to stay here.
If it was me, and I was back in my home country because of a failed marriage, I wouldn't be thinking of returning to her country either, or any country that I went there to be in a marriage with.
I'm just trying to give you a point of view from someone looking in at your situation from an outsider, it seems as though now that you finally have your PV, your relationship has ended,
I believe as well what people have said here in that you will be entitled to stay here, because as you say, you have your visa.
Just be careful because there has been recent investigations and findings into fraud visas and I am sure they will be check this. Not saying yours is, but it seems that way unfortunately.

The option you have of course is not to come back to Australia if you feel that threatened.

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Old 12-10-2012, 01:59 AM
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do yu think i still live with a woman who will torture me mentally up to death, just coz of visa, i will surely curse in such a visa , n thats why i come back, but i will not ruin a chance if i can go n live freely n peacefully in australia coz it is not a bad country. For only one woman i cant blame all aus. Thankx for ur reply anyway


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Old 12-10-2012, 07:49 AM
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do yu think i still live with a woman who will torture me mentally up to death, just coz of visa, i will surely curse in such a visa , n thats why i come back, but i will not ruin a chance if i can go n live freely n peacefully in australia coz it is not a bad country. For only one woman i cant blame all aus. Thankx for ur reply anyway
I'm not saying to stay with her, far from it. That is definately not what I am saying. You just asked the question about your visa and I was agreeing with the other comments that, now you have your visa, you should be fine. I doubt if you have your permenant visa that you will even be questioned by anyone at all now unless they seem to think there is a reason to question it, but it seems clear that your sponsor will inform DIAC of the seperation from what you say.
If you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to worry about.

Even still, go to the information booklet and read up on the visa information regarding abusive relationships so you know exactly where you stand. You might also want to send an email to DIAC to inform them of the situation as well and give them your side of the story.

Lastly, I'm definately not a guru at giving advice, and by all means you should consult an expert on the matter.

Once again, good luck.

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Old 12-11-2012, 12:00 AM
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Yes i am permenat resident i got my PR in novmber 2012, while im still in my country i come in august 2012 while i was here i was trying to make some understanding with my wife but she denied everything n wanted to cancel my TR meanwhile i got my PR but as she hate me now so even she tell me that she will complain about of fake marriage which is not but vows to put me in troubles so i am scaring to come to aus coz she told me she will make my life hell there, so i am confused what to do. I wish i come to know that if even i send her a divorce paper from here still my PR will be valid and i will have no problem go back to aus and can live like a free human being without living with her, so kindly guide me i am very confuse what to do, do u think it will be ok to send a divorce paper to her and then i apply DIAC abOUT THIS and i clarrify my visa status. I am really scare of her as she is very aggressive and harsh to me. Kindly help me and guide me also i now cant live in my home country as people know i am married to a foreinger so my life is also hard due to cultural issues now.
We can't guide you cause we're not registered migration agents. We're only forum users who got some experience about certain visas cause we went through that process and so we share our opinion. If you want an advice/guidance, then you need to speak to a good and registered migration agent.


You now have your PR and you can divorce your wife, your PR is not going to be taken from you. You don't have to notify DIAC at all, you have your PR. And your wife can complain if she wants to, but I bet they have heaps of reports from "disappointed husbands and wives" who (once the relationship breaks down) claim their marriage wasn't real or they were abused. Once I read that DIAC doesn't really research the cases after the PR was granted, but I don't know if that's true.


Remember, this is only my opinion, not an advice, but if I was you, I'd plan my future in Australia and probably somewhere far away from your wife. If she's agressive and mean as you claim she is, then you don't want to bump into her daily.

I also wouldn't rush with the divorce. There's no need to hurry, is there? Go to Australia, find a job, a place to stay... you can look for jobs while still in India, cause it's all online; perhaps you have friends or relatives who can help you at the beginning as well.

Once settled, you can find out how to get a divorce, perhaps talk to the appropriate authorities how to keep your address a secret when filing for divorce.

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Even still, go to the information booklet and read up on the visa information regarding abusive relationships so you know exactly where you stand. You might also want to send an email to DIAC to inform them of the situation as well and give them your side of the story.
I think this is a good advice...

And if you're afraid of her, you can always talk to the Australian police as well.

If you want to move, it's probably best you don't hesitate (this is my opinion, not advice!), and you'll sort the divorce and the rest later. If she really writes that letter to the immigration, it's probably good you write your side of the story to DIAC as well, just that you're covered.

But you don't have to be in any contacts with her. Leave her alone, don't seek her or talk to her, move to Australia if you want to and get a divorce eventually...

I repeat, this is my opinion and not an advice. I'm not a migration agent.

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Old 12-11-2012, 08:04 AM
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Couldn't agree more with bma here.

We're definately not registered agents and this is purely opinion based from us on our own experiences and mine is only from this year. I just really want to re-iterate that point and really suggest you contact as registered agent or seek official advice to confirm what the process may be should a claim be presented to DIAC from your sponsor. Your choice of course.

I haven't heard/read of anything like this in the short time I have been on this forum and I am completely unsure how much DIAC would look into it if they received any advice that a PR was issued under false pretences. I have no idea, I do not work for DIAC or any part of Immigration.

I am just trying to provide a viewpoint as a third party looking into your situation, as you have posted it here in a public forum open to public comment.

So feel free to disregard what my views (purely opinion without any qualification or training) are, but the thing that I don't understand from what you have provided is, you say you can not tolerate to be with her for even a week from the mental torture. That's a pretty broken relationship to me. Significant problems there. I presume this is the reason why you returned in August back to your home country of origin such was the serious nature of what you are indicating... fair enough I say, I'd probably have done the same!!!!

Then 3 months later, you were given your PR (Nov)

If I was DIAC (which I am not), the first question that comes to mind is, why did you or your sponsor not inform DIAC of the breakdown in the relationship at that time or in fact report the abusive nature? This is the step that seems to be missed from my humble point of view.

I'm actually throwing this out there as a potential question that may be asked by DIAC if, provided with a claim from your sponsor, they would surely be required to investigate. Both, her claims, and then surely it would be only fair to check with you for your side... I find it very unbelievable that they would just ignore the claim without looking into the facts from both parties considering the serious nature of providing misleading information to gain a PR to the Australian Govt. Which means your sponsor would have to back up the claims with evidence. Maybe you also have some evidence of her threatening and abusive nature, any witnesses? If you actually reported these incidents at the time and sought help then, you would have most likely been granted a PR due to the nature of what you are claiming.

We have all read about recent investigations in Brisbane which exposed a whole arrangement of false applications. This indicates to me that they would indeed follow up any claims both false or true to in fact confirm or reject the claims. They have a telephone line specifically for anyone who suspects this activity is being conducted.

This viewpoint of mine is intended to pose a question that seems to be a clear question to someone looking in from the outside. I do not know and I am not saying for one moment you have done anything wrong and what you did was not justified. I just know I would definately have a good answer for it and perhaps evidence for to back up my story should anyone ask.

I hope this can be seen as a source of help as apposed to trying to scare you, or whatever and alternatively just telling you everything will be fine and hunky dorey. It's always best to be prepared. If nothing happens, sweet, if they investigate, then you're prepared.

To any other members reading this, feel free to tell me I'm going crazy and keep my opinions safely to myself in the future, or alternatively maybe you also see this issue I see. Very interesting topic raised if nothing else.

Hope it helps.

Good Luck.

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Old 12-12-2012, 07:59 AM
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thanks every one for urs valuable advices ,


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thanks every one for urs valuable advices ,
i come to know why she is so harsh with me coz i find out on her email is doing dateing with some other guy from another country and she is planing to visit him soon like she visit me, so as she is fed off from me now therefore she want to kick me out of her way and wana some enjoyment with another man now again she will be sick of him, i dont mind this but what make me sad is that why she come marry me and take me there and then later on after nearly 3 years she saying of false marriage and bringing bad name to me in my society also trying to make me loss my PR by telling some bullshits. if she was not ready to b living with man from a different culture for long relationship then why she come and marry me. anyhow DIAC should be aware and careful before cancelling some one visa. i am not saying all aussie women but most of women i see there feel sick from their hubbies soon and then wana change but no problem is for a forgein hubby like me who cant go back and live in his area coz of cultural issue and in aussie coz of ex wife or wife.
WOW. Just.... wow. You are on a board full of people spending months of time and effort and thousands of dollars in order to be with their loved ones, and this lovely little generalization about Australian women is something you thought appropriate to post? Interesting.


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Old 12-12-2012, 03:44 PM
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This whole thread sounds extremely fishy to me. Australia is a big place with many areas to live in so just move back and start a new life if what your saying is true. For some reason I don't believe it is true. Your answers are looking for problems that don't exist like there are things you haven't mentioned.

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I'd read through the whole thread and it's just something not right here. Both of you seems have agenda of getting the PR with some other reason. BTW, your comment on Oz women I think is bit too far. I've met some Oz women who love there hubby so much and stay together whole life. Better be careful on your comment


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Old 12-13-2012, 02:53 AM
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sorry dont take my comments in negative sense im extremmly sorry if some one have taken it in negative sense.


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